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Oldhand
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 Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:42 am Post subject: Canon FL 28mm f3.5 |
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Oldhand wrote:
There is almost nothing about this lens on the net.
I am unsure how common it is, but it is - at first blush, an impressive lens.
My initial trials with this lens show very fine resolution even from widest aperture and excellent results closed down.
Here are some quick images from this morning.
If you have other shots from this lens please share them here.
OH
Open aperture f3.5
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Lightshow
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Thanks for sharing, I haven't had a chance to shoot my FL or FD silver nose 28/3.8's.
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
OK, finally found an opportunity to take this little lens upriver.
Here are some images.
OH
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kryss
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:55 am Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
 Very nice Thomas...
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devinw
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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devinw wrote:
Really nice! 
Love #3 in the second post. Lighting and color is very nice.
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Minolfan
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Minolfan wrote:
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
****There is almost nothing about this lens on the net***
Looks like a VG lens..but just to add, there is not much on the net using the FL 100mm f3.5 either (that I've just bought)...even more difficult is to find example shots using the FL 19mm f3.5 R that I own also. 
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks everyone for the affirmations.
Here is another shot at distance. The lens is a good performer from up close to infinity, and from wide open to closed aperture.
I thought that this lens must have been uncommon, but there are plenty for sale on ebay starting quite cheaply.
A bargain at those prices I think
OH
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kryss
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
looks equally as good as the Pentax PKA
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| looks equally as good as the Pentax PKA |
Yes, Kryss, co-incidentally, I had the same thought.
Here is the same shot as the last, but taken with the Canon FD 2/28 SSC immediately afterwards at the same settings.
I cannot discern any difference. Of course the difference in purchase price is significant.
OH
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
A pair of crested hawks are building a nest above where we sit on our deck.
I had my camera with this lens, and was taking something else when I noticed them above me.
28mm is not the best focal length for bird shots, but was all I had.
Here are some quick snaps.
OH
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Crop from above
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Tighter crop shows the feather detail from this lens. Aperture was 5.6 and there is camera movement with the bird in flight.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Nice samples!
I bought the same lens but mine doesn't quite reach infinity.
Perhaps it is the adapter? |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Thinking the FL 28mm f3.5 might be optically identical to the FD 28mm f3.5..this lens too is very good.
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Looks very good, much better than the FD 3.5/28 I had which was pretty mediocre, lots of CA, especially on the outer part of the frame.
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Lightshow
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
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| Thinking the FL 28mm f3.5 might be optically identical to the FD 28mm f3.5..this lens too is very good. |
The FL is a 7/7 design while the FD is 6/6
FL: http://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/fl95.html
FD: http://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/fd137.html
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
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| Looks very good, much better than the FD 3.5/28 I had which was pretty mediocre, lots of CA, especially on the outer part of the frame. |
Well nothing wrong with the sharpness using FD 28mm f3.5 on a film camera :-
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Thanks...looks like Canon made the FD ver cheaper for Joe public and the CA mentioned could be the result because of lens design change from FL to FD.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:42 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Here is a photo of the adapter I am using.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:17 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
| Excalibur wrote: |
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| Looks very good, much better than the FD 3.5/28 I had which was pretty mediocre, lots of CA, especially on the outer part of the frame. |
Well nothing wrong with the sharpness using FD 28mm f3.5 on a film camera :-
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Where did I say it wasn't sharp? There is a LOT more to a good lens than merely 'sharpness'.
Furthermore, why do you think that a single sample of a lens is indicative of all of them?
I said 'the FD 3.5/28 I had' and I only had one copy, otherwise I would have said so, therefore I can only comment on the one I had which was a lot different in performance to the very nice results from the FL version shown here.
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Here are a few more images from this lens.
Tom
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And this one is an HDR merge of three images done in LR6
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:25 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Nice photos, Tom.
Did you notice my question about the adapter BTW?
Thank you. |
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Excalibur
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| Excalibur wrote: |
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| Looks very good, much better than the FD 3.5/28 I had which was pretty mediocre, lots of CA, especially on the outer part of the frame. |
Well nothing wrong with the sharpness using FD 28mm f3.5 on a film camera :-
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Where did I say it wasn't sharp? There is a LOT more to a good lens than merely 'sharpness'.
Furthermore, why do you think that a single sample of a lens is indicative of all of them?
I said 'the FD 3.5/28 I had' and I only had one copy, otherwise I would have said so, therefore I can only comment on the one I had which was a lot different in performance to the very nice results from the FL version shown here. |
D'oh you said the lens "was pretty mediocre, lots of CA..." note you put a comma after mediocre and added lots of CA.
So why didn't you just say " My copy was sharp but had problems with CA, bokeh was crappy or whatever you thought about the lens"? ....end of story.
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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Nice photos, Tom.
Did you notice my question about the adapter BTW?
Thank you. |
Oops - missed it.
I have a different adapter and have no trouble with infinity.
It might be your adapter perhaps.
Here is mine and a shot of the lens as well.
Tom
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uddhava
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Thank you.
It is slightly different looking and on ebay I notice that it has screws on the top
of the breech mount which might allow modification if necessary. Mine doesn't have such screws.
Now I remember I have a FD 50 1.8 lens I can test on my adapter. Likely it must be the adapter
though as the error is very small and it seems likely it wouldn't be the lens. |
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