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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:29 am Post subject: Canon FL 135mm f3.5 - that other Sonnar |
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Oldhand wrote:
Just some images taken around the home, but I find the lens performs well for me.
Most of these are at full aperture.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Some further images from this morning.
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
#2 and #5 (1st group) my favorites. Indeed a nice Sonnar derived lens.
(2nd verse, better than the first) All three are winners!
I picked up its replacement at an estate sale. The FD S.C. 135-f/3.5. Haven't used it, since I have so many 135s in my 'collection'.
Need to dust it off and see how it compares. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
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Lloydy
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Is this the common, cheap, 135 / 3.5 ? If it is, I should use mine more often. Lovely pictures Tom. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks fellas.
Lloydy wrote: |
Is this the common, cheap, 135 / 3.5 ? If it is, I should use mine more often. Lovely pictures Tom. |
I'm not sure if there are other versions but yes - cheap and good.
Here is mine.
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:46 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
Excellent shots
I wonder if the FL is the same layout as:
DSC01562 by unoh7, Canon LTM 135/3.5
Both are 4 elements in 3 groups This is also quite a good lens, not as cheap as the FL but still just 85USD or so.
Here it is on the M9 around f/5.6:
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
uhoh7 wrote: |
Excellent shots
I wonder if the FL is the same layout as:
DSC01562 by unoh7, Canon LTM 135/3.5
Both are 4 elements in 3 groups This is also quite a good lens.
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Thank you for the kind words.
I am not sure about the layout, but it stands to reason that they could easily be the same.
Your landscape is very well taken.
I have been delighted with the performance of this lens and I re-shot one of the images above that I was not happy with.
Here are a few more as well as the re-done image.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
We are approaching mid-late summer here, and the eucalypts have grown to the point of shedding their old bark.
So that you know what I am talking about, here is an image of eucalypts taken with a wide angle lens:
Usually, the new trunks are beautiful in their colouring but yesterday I was taken by the bark itself.
Here is an image - the Canon FL again.
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Great samples! Does anybody know if the FD S.C. version is the same? (i have one of those, never used it) _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
TrueLoveOne wrote: |
Great samples! Does anybody know if the FD S.C. version is the same? (i have one of those, never used it) |
Gratias amigo.
I think that the two are the same optically, but someone can correct me here. The FD 135/3.5 SC and the FL have four elements in three groups. The FDn 135/3.5 has four elements in four groups and is a different design.
Go ahead and give it a spin - you might like what it does. I am delighted with mine
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starlights
Joined: 04 Apr 2015 Posts: 96 Location: Washington DC
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:42 am Post subject: |
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starlights wrote:
Beautiful samples. Thanks for sharing.
I have a Canomatic R 135mm f3.5 (preset) which I believe preceded the FL range, but haven't had time to try it out yet. Hopefully it will be similar. _________________ Lenses for Sale: http://www.ebay.com/sch/starxlights/m.html?item=281825389989 |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:33 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I have the M39 version, it's a good lens but can't quite match a 'real' sonnar.
Canon 3.5/135:
CZJ Sonnar 3.5/135:
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:56 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
[oldhand]
Simply great! Love the additional images, especially the bark composition. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:00 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Ian,
That's a big difference in contrast! Your post kicked some dormant memory cells...I may have this older Canon as well.
What does your M39 look like? Serenar? Earlier, later? _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:40 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Mine is a black one, the later type.
I forgot to mention - the Sonnar is a late model with multicoating, hence the much greater contrast. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:03 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
Go ahead and give it a spin - you might like what it does. I am delighted with mine
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I'll do that soon! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:33 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
I found this searching today:
"Canon changed the FD 135mm/3.5 S.C. lens formula in 1976, going from from 4 elements in 3 groups (like the Carl Zeiss Jena 135mm/3.5 Sonnar) to 4 elements in 4 groups. "
Therefore it's not the same lens. And after taking some shots with it this afternoon, the results can't match Oldhand's images. But even if I had the very same lens, I don't think I would match Oldhand.
The FD S.C. was able to yield pretty good resolution, but I found it to have more chromatic aberration in the off focus areas. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
There are indeed 2 versions of the S.C. 3.5/135. You can tell the difference by counting the diaphragm blades, the 4/3 has 8, the newer 4/4 design has 6. The older version is also heavier, v1 is 465gr and v2 is 385gr.
I guess i'm lucky, i've got the older version!
See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_FD_135_mm_lens#cite_note-4
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
TrueLoveOne wrote: |
There are indeed 2 versions of the S.C. 3.5/135. You can tell the difference by counting the diaphragm blades, the 4/3 has 8, the newer 4/4 design has 6. The older version is also heavier, v1 is 465gr and v2 is 385gr.
I guess i'm lucky, i've got the older version!
See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_FD_135_mm_lens#cite_note-4
Cheers, René! |
Thanks for that link Rene.
From it there seems to be three versions of the FD 3.5/135 SC - with release dates of July 1970, March 1973 and November 1976
The FL was released in 1966.
Counting the blades is a good tip - thank you for that as well.
Interesting history
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kryss
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Really great as usual Tom,but you could take a prize winner using the bottom of a Coke bottle as a lens. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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Really great as usual Tom,but you could take a prize winner using the bottom of a Coke bottle as a lens. |
Hahaha - thank you kryss.
You have given me a challenge - I'll see what I can do
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6009 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
kryss wrote: |
Really great as usual Tom,but you could take a prize winner using the bottom of a Coke bottle as a lens. |
Actually it took a while to find a coke bottle - most come in plastic these days.
So I took some images through the coke bottle - the best I could achieve were - well - abstract.
Anyhoo, here they are
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kryss
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:38 am Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Great Tom,I really like 1&2 as textures or background. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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TrueLoveOne
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
So I took some images through the coke bottle - the best I could achieve were - well - abstract.
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
You're good, Thomas! _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
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