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Jesito
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 Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: Camera mounts and register distance |
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Jesito wrote:
Just a summary:
CAMERA SYSTEM / MOUNT TYPE /REGISTER DISTANCE
Aaton / bayonet(?) / 40.00
Alpa / bayonet / 37.80
Argus / bayonet / 44.45
Arriflex / bayonet / 52.00
Balda Baldamatic lll / 44.70
Bolex /breech / 23.22
Bolex H8RX / 1" x 32tpi thread / 15.31
Braun Colorette / 44.70
Braun Colorette Super / 44.70
Braun Reflex Automatic / 44.70
Bronica S2A / bayonet & 57x1 thread / 101.70
Bronica ETRS /
Bronica GS1
Compur 00 / rear outer: 25x0.5
/front inner: 22.5x0.5
/rear inner:
Compur 0 / rear outer: 32.5x0.5
/front inner: 29.5x0.5
/rear inner: 29.5x0.5
Compur 1 / rear outer: 39x0.75
/front inner: 40x0.75
/rear inner: 36x0.75
Compur 3 / rear outer: 62x0.75
/front inner: 58x0.75
/rear inner: 58x0.75
Compur 5 / rear outer: 92x0.75
/front inner: 86x0.75
/rear inner: 86x0.75
C-mount /1" x 32tpi thread / 17.526 (0.69")
C-S mount / 1" x 32tpi thread / 12.50
[also known as "1-32 UN 2A"]
Canon EOS / bayonet / 44.00
Canon EX1/2 VL / bayonet / 20.00
Canon R/FL/FD / breech or bayonet / 42.00
Canon screw / M39x1 thread / 28.80
Contarex / 46.00
Contax RF / 34.85 /
Contax-Yashica / bayonet / 45.50
Contax G1 / bayonet / 29.00
D-mount /0.625" x 32tpi / 12.29
Eclair /bayonet / 48.00
Exakta/Topcon / bayonet / 44.70
Exacta 66 / breech lock / 74.10
Edixa Electronica / 44.70
Edixa-Rex / bayonet / 53.00
Hasselblad/Kiev88 / multi start thread / 82.10
Hasselblad 500/2000 / bayonet / 74.90
Icarex /breech lock / 48.00
(Icarex 35/35S/SL-706 / 45.50?)
Iloca Electric / 44.70
K-mount / bayonet / 45.46
Kilarflex / 92.30
Kilarscope / 78.80
Kiev 60/Kiev Six breech lock / 74.10
Kiev 88 /multi start thread 82.10
Kodak Reflex S / 44.70
Kodak Reflex lll / 44.70
Kodak Reflex IV / 44.70
Kodak Reflex Instamatic Reflex / 44.70
Kowa Six/Super 66 breech lock / 79.00
Konica AR / bayonet / 40.70
Konica F / bayonet / 40.50
Konica RF Hexar / screw / 27.95
Leica M /bayonet / 27.95 (27.80?)
Leica R /bayonet / 47.00
Leica screw / M39x26tpi / 28.80
Leitz Visoflex I / M39x26tpi / 62.50 (91.30 total)
(both are sometimes mistaken for M39 x 1mm, a tiny difference, but enough to cause problems with some non-Leica M39 lenses)
Leitz Visoflex II, III / Leica M bayonet / 40.00 (68.80 total)
Mamiya ZE / bayonet / 45.50
Mamiya 645 / bayonet / 63.30
Mamiya RB / bayonet / 112.00
Mamiya RZ / bayonet / 105.00
Minolta AF / bayonet / 44.50
Minolta MD / bayonet / 43.50
Miranda dual BM/SM / bayonet/M44x1 thread / 41.50
Miranda TM only SM / M42x1 thread / 41.50
Miranda Laborec bayonet / M44x1 thread / 41.50
dual BM/SM
Mirax Laborec BM/SM / Laborec-bayonet/M46x1 thread 41.50
(Soligor TM only SM / M42x1 thread / 41.50
(Pallas TM only SM / M42x1 thread / 41.50
Narcissus / M24x1 thread / 28.80
Nikon /bayonet / 46.50
Novoflex / 100.00
Olympus OM / bayonet / 46.00
Olympus Pen F / bayonet / 28.95
Olympus E1 / bayonet / 38.67 (38.80?) (adapter for OM lenses seems to require focusing beyond infinity, perhaps 0.13mm error due to film-thickness??)
(aka 4/3 or four/thirds)
Paxette /M39x1 thread / 44.00
Pentacon 6 / breech lock / 74.10
Pentax 6x7 / bayonet / 84.95 (74.10?)
Pentax 645 / bayonet / 70.87
Pentax/Practica / M42x1 thread / 45.46 (add film thickness, and get 45.50mm.... )
Practica bayonet
Practiflex / M40x1 thread / 45.50(?)
Petriflex / breech lock / 43.50
Praktina / breech lock / 50.00
RAS /
Rectaflex / 43.40
Retina lllS / 44.70
Ricoh /breach mount / 45.50
RMS /0.800" x 36tpi thread
Rolleiflex SL35 / bayonet / 44.60
Rolleiflex SL66 / bayonet / 102.80
Rollei 6008 / 75.32
Rollei 6008
shutter-adapter M39x0.75 / 31.68
Rollei 6008 bellows / +67.00 (minimum extension; add both bellows and shutter-adapter and you get 174.00mm minimum)
Schneider / M26x0.5 /
Sigma SA / bayonet / 44.00
T2 mount / M42x0.75 / 55.00
Topcon IC1 / bayonet / 55.00
Voigtlander Bessamatic / 44.70
Voigtlander Ultramatic / 44.70
Voigtlander Vitessa-T / 44.70
Wrayflex / M41.2 x 26tpi / 42.05
Zeiss Ikon Flektoskop/F'meter / 84.50 (119.35 total)
Zeiss Ikon Panflex / 64.50 / (99.35 total)
Zenith 3M / M39x1 thread / 45.46
Zenit 80 / multi start thread / 74.10
Jes.
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piticu
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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piticu wrote:
Excelent infos. Here's another one http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~westin/misc/mounts-by-register.html
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sichko
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
Zenit 3M (M39) 45.2
Later Zenit (M42) 45.5
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Xpres
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Xpres wrote:
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Zenit 3M (M39) 45.2
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Is it? I'm going to have a closer look at my zenit lenses. I never use then at infinity, but I'll check now. I thought the register was the same as M42.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Sevo wrote:
Robot M26x1.0 (early models M26x0.75) screw mount: 31mm
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sichko
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
There is an ongoing argument about this. These numbers are taken from what I believe to be authoritative Russian sources. However others, presumably quoting what they believe to be reliable sources, suggest that the two numbers are the same. My own experience with, for example, the MIR-1 2.8/37 suggests that there is a real difference between the M39 (silver) and the M42 (black) registration distances.
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dino1
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: |
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dino1 wrote:
Does anyone have the registration data for the Pentax 110 slr.
At some stage I want to build a G1 M4/3 mount for the 18,24,and 50mm lenses I have.
Otherwise I will have to work on a trial and error basis.
Sure I know these lenses don't have a built in iris but as they were obviously designed to work correctly with the aperature adjustment behind the rear element it should be possible to make the adapter to present a fixed f5.6 or f8 aperature.
Will it be worth the effort?
Just a challenge really.
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sichko
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
Where does this site get its information from ? It quotes Zenit 3M as 45.5.
Presumably the factory got it wrong when it wrote the manual... ?
http://zenitcamera.com/mans/zenit-3m/zenit-3m
I prefer to believe KMZ. So... if the cornell site has got it wrong for the Zenit 3M how many of its other numbers can you believe ?
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sichko
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
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At some stage I want to build a G1 M4/3 mount for the 18,24,and 50mm lenses I have.
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They may be available already..
http://forum.manualfocus.org/viewtopic.php?id=12408
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dino1
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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dino1 wrote:
Thanks for that sichko.
I expect when these M4/3 adapters for some of the more obscure lenses are available they will sell at eye watering prices due to limited demand.
For standard 4/3 users the the price of the adapters from China available via ebay is so low that it is not worth the effort of making your own
Engineering various mounts and adapters is something I can do when its not possible be outside with a camera.
I too live in the South west UK (Taunton) so you will know how much time I have been forced to stay indoords this year!
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
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| I too live in the South west UK (Taunton) so you will know how much time I have been forced to stay indoords this year! |
Yes indeed ! I'm a little northwest - the other side of the channel in Swansea.
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dino1
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dino1 wrote:
Hi John
It seems I own quite a few of the lenses on your list
How do you use the m42 types on your Nikon. Do you just accept the lack of infinity focus.
Ive been collecting various lenses for around 2 years to use on my Pentaxes.
A few months ago I bought an Oly 510 twin lens kit on behalf of a friend and had a few days to play with it before handing it over.
Nice little camera but I would not have been tempted to abandon Pentax.
I was however rather envious of the ease when using 4/3 I could mount virtually every lens in my collection via adapters costing around £10 on average.
The G1 extends the choice even further
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sichko
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sichko wrote:
I use a glass adapter for infinity focus with M42. I'm quite happy with the results but - for reasons I can't quite understand - I'm trying to move away from M42. I've got the Russian xxxN lenses which have automatic aperture. The "A" lenses are preset but they have a Nikon mount and give infinity without glass. The Pentacon 6 lenses give infinity with a simple mechanical adapter. And if I sell all my M42s I can probably afford a couple of Nikkors. And then I think that I must forget about buying new lenses for a while and spend more time with the ones that I've got !
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Riku wrote:
| sichko wrote: |
Where does this site get its information from ? It quotes Zenit 3M as 45.5.
Presumably the factory got it wrong when it wrote the manual... ?
http://zenitcamera.com/mans/zenit-3m/zenit-3m
I prefer to believe KMZ. So... if the cornell site has got it wrong for the Zenit 3M how many of its other numbers can you believe ? |
ALL of my M39 lenses confirm the different register distance. The wider the angle, the bigger the difference in focus scale. Tair-11 135mm focuses almost infinity, maybe to 30-40 meters. Mir-1 37mm only to 5-7 meters. |
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