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themoleman342
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 Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: BlackCarl Zeiss Biotar 5,8cm |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Hey everyone
I was wondering how much the older black biotar from carl zeiss would run? I know its somewhat rarer than the chrome varient.
Thanks
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Lot rare ! I found only three items in my db 46,107 and 242 USD
I have one, not better than silver just lot more rare.
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themoleman342
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
wow, alright
This is for the m42 right? |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes.All M42.
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themoleman342
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
alright well I'll toss this one up in the air...hopefully someone in this group can snatch it up if they so desire.
Click here to see on Ebay
I asked the seller a bit more on the lens...since it does show a scratch and he does mention that. I will be sure to post that if he happens to send something back.
Still it might be a good deal to someone out there. I wish I had the money to invest or the girlfriend that would truely understand, haha.
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Maxim
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Maxim wrote:
I found two examples of black Biotar 5,8cm with old SLR cameras:
Nr 3189313 (I hope, I'll grab it  )
http://allegro.pl/item277828236_stara_praktica_objektyw_zeissa_lustrzanka.html
Nr 3332409
http://allegro.pl/item279182388_praktiflex_zeiss_biotar_2_0_58_m42.html
The barrel looks like made from brass - not chrome or aluminium. Anybody know how old are these lenses?
I read that Biotar had been produced since 1936 till 1960. First version has barrel made probably from chrome (there are some black examples too) with focal length in cm; newer version was alu finished, with focal length in mm. Well, I'm not an expert in old lenses, but I love them and I want to learn more.
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E-300 + ZD 14-42 + Tessar 5cm/3.5 + Mamiya 55/1.4 + Primoplan V 58/1.9 + Biotar 5.8cm/2 + MC Helios 44M-6 58/2 + Trioplan 100/2.8 + Trioplan V 100/2.8 + "Olympia" Sonnar 180/2.8 + ЮПИТЕР-6 180/2.8 + Telemegor 400/5.5
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Attila
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
No idea, I estimate around 1950th.
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hacksawbob
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: |
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hacksawbob wrote:
Yes I have one here too, not brilliant condition though, one amazing thing with this lens is the number of blades for such a small lens 17! the alu biotar has only 10 blades.
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Maxim
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Maxim wrote:
I wanted to buy rare black Biotar 5,8cm, but unfortunately I lost the auction. Now I have a chance to buy such lens for about 25 €. Lens is in the good condition, works properly. Is it worthwhile buying it for this price? I will have to borrow money from parents  I spent my money to buy old Praktica with Tessar 5cm 1:3.5 (my example is older than Orio's).
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E-300 + ZD 14-42 + Tessar 5cm/3.5 + Mamiya 55/1.4 + Primoplan V 58/1.9 + Biotar 5.8cm/2 + MC Helios 44M-6 58/2 + Trioplan 100/2.8 + Trioplan V 100/2.8 + "Olympia" Sonnar 180/2.8 + ЮПИТЕР-6 180/2.8 + Telemegor 400/5.5
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This lens recommended for collection, not for every day usage.
Value is lot more than 25 EUR
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Maxim
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Maxim wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| This lens recommended for collection, not for every day usage. |
I know :] I want to buy it for my pleasure and to use it sometimes. I already have Helios 44M-6 (optical copy of Biotar) for general use.
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E-300 + ZD 14-42 + Tessar 5cm/3.5 + Mamiya 55/1.4 + Primoplan V 58/1.9 + Biotar 5.8cm/2 + MC Helios 44M-6 58/2 + Trioplan 100/2.8 + Trioplan V 100/2.8 + "Olympia" Sonnar 180/2.8 + ЮПИТЕР-6 180/2.8 + Telemegor 400/5.5
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
till 100 EUR is a good price
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Maxim
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Maxim wrote:
I bought it using "buy it now" option 
My "Christmas self-gifts", both from the same seller:
http://allegro.pl/item284630393_pierwsza_praktica_zeiss_tessar_m42.html
http://allegro.pl/item288108553_zeiss_biotar_2_58_m42.html
I talked on the phone to the seller. I'll get these lens and camera after Christmas (personal receipt).
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E-300 + ZD 14-42 + Tessar 5cm/3.5 + Mamiya 55/1.4 + Primoplan V 58/1.9 + Biotar 5.8cm/2 + MC Helios 44M-6 58/2 + Trioplan 100/2.8 + Trioplan V 100/2.8 + "Olympia" Sonnar 180/2.8 + ЮПИТЕР-6 180/2.8 + Telemegor 400/5.5
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Congrats Maxim!!
I wouldn't take the camera, but lens was excellent buy!
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Maxim
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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Maxim wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| till 100 EUR is a good price |
I'll pay about 72 € for all these purchases: Praktica, Tessar and Biotar. Tessar was produced around 1950, Biotar - around 1952 (I compared their serial numbers with copies which I know).
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E-300 + ZD 14-42 + Tessar 5cm/3.5 + Mamiya 55/1.4 + Primoplan V 58/1.9 + Biotar 5.8cm/2 + MC Helios 44M-6 58/2 + Trioplan 100/2.8 + Trioplan V 100/2.8 + "Olympia" Sonnar 180/2.8 + ЮПИТЕР-6 180/2.8 + Telemegor 400/5.5
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Tessar is quite common, Biotar is lot rare.You made a great deal!
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