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BKSPicture
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 426 Location: Sverige
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:54 am Post subject: Best film developer |
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BKSPicture wrote:
Which developer do you find the best??
I have almost only used the Kodak D76 1+1 water and its very easy to use and hard to get wronge.
Can I expect much better resoults from other developers or what do you prefer? _________________ Homepage: http://www.bkspicture.com/
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Blog: http://www.blog.bkspicture.com/
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
My favourite developer was Rodinal for a long time (because it was easy to use, compatible with every film, cheap and very durable in softpacks), but after making some more developments with Kodak Xtol 1+1 I really don't wan't to use Rodinal anymore. Simply everything is better with Xtol. Resolution, grain, speed, clarity, sharpness and tonality. And it's also one of the cheapest developers here (8.-€/5l; that's used @1:1 effectilly even sligthly cheaper than Rodinal 1+25 (13€/500ml)).
Yes you can expect slightly better results with Xtol than with D76
Xtol is the D76 successor and very similar to D76 in character, but overall a tack better, especially in grain.
(Source is Kodak.com)
The first column is shadow detail/speed, the second is grain and the third is sharpness _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I can give you a definitive answer to which developer is best:
There is no 'best' developer, no such beast exists, sir!
There are many good developers, you have to pair them up with suitable films and find combos that work well for you.
For instance, I like Paterson FX-39 very much, it gives me excellent results with Kodak TMAX. However, it gives me poor results with lots of grain with Kodak Vision2 films. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I can give you a definitive answer to which developer is best:
There is no 'best' developer, no such beast exists, sir!
There are many good developers, you have to pair them up with suitable films and find combos that work well for you.
For instance, I like Paterson FX-39 very much, it gives me excellent results with Kodak TMAX. However, it gives me poor results with lots of grain with Kodak Vision2 films. |
+1!!! _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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BKSPicture
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 426 Location: Sverige
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:02 am Post subject: |
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BKSPicture wrote:
ForenSeil wrote: |
My favourite developer was Rodinal for a long time (because it was easy to use, compatible with every film, cheap and very durable in softpacks), but after making some more developments with Kodak Xtol 1+1 I really don't wan't to use Rodinal anymore. Simply everything is better with Xtol. Resolution, grain, speed, clarity, sharpness and tonality. And it's also one of the cheapest developers here (8.-€/5l; that's used @1:1 effectilly even sligthly cheaper than Rodinal 1+25 (13€/500ml)).
Yes you can expect slightly better results with Xtol than with D76
Xtol is the D76 successor and very similar to D76 in character, but overall a tack better, especially in grain.
(Source is Kodak.com)
The first column is shadow detail/speed, the second is grain and the third is sharpness |
Very imformative, thanks
Most give that a try next time I buy developer but I have a hole box of D76 so that will take some time. _________________ Homepage: http://www.bkspicture.com/
(My personal picture etc.)
Blog: http://www.blog.bkspicture.com/
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Attila wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
I can give you a definitive answer to which developer is best:
There is no 'best' developer, no such beast exists, sir!
There are many good developers, you have to pair them up with suitable films and find combos that work well for you.
For instance, I like Paterson FX-39 very much, it gives me excellent results with Kodak TMAX. However, it gives me poor results with lots of grain with Kodak Vision2 films. |
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I'm a big fan of xtol too. I use it at 1:2 for slightly higher acutence. It's never given me anything but superb results. Disregard any sources that say it will "unexpectedly fail." Because of good mixing technique (using distilled water) and good storage (glass or non-breathable plastics and no trapped air in the container) I've had no problems with storing up to 8 months. I say 8 months because that's the longest I've had a batch before using it up. It was consistent throughout.
That chart is great! It gives me confidence that I've been using the right product all these years. |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
Like most devlopers Xtol contains EDTA that catches very most dirt which influences with development, so as long as you have good tap water (not ozonized, not chlorinated, etc), destilled theoretically shouldn't be a must at all.
but otherwise +1 _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
My camera: Sony A7+Zeiss Sonnar 55/1.8
Current favourite lenses (I have many more):
A few macro-Tominons, Samyang 12/2.8, Noritsu 50.7/9.5, Rodagon 105/5.6 on bellows, Samyang 135/2, Nikon ED 180/2.8, Leitz Elmar-R 250/4, Celestron C8 2000mm F10
Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
My Blog: http://picturechemistry.own-blog.com/
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