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kds315*
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
More "3D"...
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X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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michael49
Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Posts: 12
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:49 am Post subject: |
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michael49 wrote:
[quote="FlyPenFly"]...
Zeiss 21mm F2.8 ZF.2 on A850
untitled-38.jpg by jaetography, on Flickr
Not sure if this is "3D" or not, but I love this shot, nice use of HDR. _________________ - Michael
NEX 5n, G3, 550D, lenses |
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oceanus
Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:19 am Post subject: Is it 3D looks |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:55 am Post subject: Re: Is it 3D looks |
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walter g wrote:
Quoted so picture show. Your next post the pictures will show up fine. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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oceanus
Joined: 14 Oct 2011 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: Re: Is it 3D looks |
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oceanus wrote:
walter g wrote: |
Quoted so picture show. Your next post the pictures will show up fine. |
Thanks for your help |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Zeiss Prakticar 1.4/50mm (DDR Planar)
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
It must be me. I don't see any 3D at all in any of these pictures in this thread (apart possibly from Klaus's cross-eyed double ones but, try as hard as I can, I just can't overlay the two images). Some have lots of "pop", but I guess it's impossible to create 3D on a 2D plane. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Pancolart
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
It must be me. I don't see any 3D at all in any of these pictures in this thread (apart possibly from Klaus's cross-eyed double ones but, try as hard as I can, I just can't overlay the two images). Some have lots of "pop", but I guess it's impossible to create 3D on a 2D plane. |
It's mystical concept alright but you sure don't need 3D glasses to experience it . _________________ ---------------------------------
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metallaro1980
Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 385 Location: West Emilia - Fidenza (PR) 43036 - Italy
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:33 am Post subject: |
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metallaro1980 wrote:
and this? _________________
Olympus OM: 28 2.8, 35 2.8, 50 1.8 Made in Japan
Contax: 50 1.4, 85 1.4
Zeiss: 135 2.0 Apo-Sonnar ZE
Leica-R: 180 3.4 Apo-Telyt-R (Leitax)
Rollei QBM: 135 2.8 Rolleinar (Leitax), 50 1.4 HFT
Canon: 50 1.8, 40 2.8
M42: Helios 50 2.0, Jupiter-37A, Jupiter-21 200 4.0
Binocular: Hensoldt & Wetzlar DF 8x30
http://andreaverdi.altervista.org/ Vivaldi lives in my lenses.... |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
metallaro1980 wrote: |
and this? |
Very slight pop on my monitor _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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metallaro1980
Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 385 Location: West Emilia - Fidenza (PR) 43036 - Italy
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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metallaro1980 wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
metallaro1980 wrote: |
and this? |
Very slight pop on my monitor |
My father hates this Brand of Lens... I like this lens
It is a 100mm _________________
Olympus OM: 28 2.8, 35 2.8, 50 1.8 Made in Japan
Contax: 50 1.4, 85 1.4
Zeiss: 135 2.0 Apo-Sonnar ZE
Leica-R: 180 3.4 Apo-Telyt-R (Leitax)
Rollei QBM: 135 2.8 Rolleinar (Leitax), 50 1.4 HFT
Canon: 50 1.8, 40 2.8
M42: Helios 50 2.0, Jupiter-37A, Jupiter-21 200 4.0
Binocular: Hensoldt & Wetzlar DF 8x30
http://andreaverdi.altervista.org/ Vivaldi lives in my lenses....
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
This is better. Still you don't mention the lens. _________________ ---------------------------------
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Looking at an old thread here and this shot has plenty of pop.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1047/finalmil.jpg _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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JohnBee
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBee wrote:
Outstanding!
Any idea what was used to produce this? |
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metallaro1980
Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 385 Location: West Emilia - Fidenza (PR) 43036 - Italy
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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metallaro1980 wrote:
JohnBee wrote: |
Outstanding!
Any idea what was used to produce this? |
http://forum.mflenses.com/carl-zeiss-tessar-t-45mm-f-2-8-145-delivered-t22632,highlight,%2Btessar+%2B45mm.html
Some photos to explain the kind of shot I'm talking about (both with the 35mm L):
Canon EF 35mm f/1.4 L USM _________________
Olympus OM: 28 2.8, 35 2.8, 50 1.8 Made in Japan
Contax: 50 1.4, 85 1.4
Zeiss: 135 2.0 Apo-Sonnar ZE
Leica-R: 180 3.4 Apo-Telyt-R (Leitax)
Rollei QBM: 135 2.8 Rolleinar (Leitax), 50 1.4 HFT
Canon: 50 1.8, 40 2.8
M42: Helios 50 2.0, Jupiter-37A, Jupiter-21 200 4.0
Binocular: Hensoldt & Wetzlar DF 8x30
http://andreaverdi.altervista.org/ Vivaldi lives in my lenses....
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Excalibur
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
JohnBee wrote: |
Outstanding!
Any idea what was used to produce this? |
The shot was in the Tessar 45mm thread:-
http://forum.mflenses.com/carl-zeiss-tessar-t-45mm-f-2-8-145-delivered-t22632,highlight,%2Btessar+%2B45mm.html _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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metallaro1980
Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 385 Location: West Emilia - Fidenza (PR) 43036 - Italy
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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metallaro1980 wrote:
_________________
Olympus OM: 28 2.8, 35 2.8, 50 1.8 Made in Japan
Contax: 50 1.4, 85 1.4
Zeiss: 135 2.0 Apo-Sonnar ZE
Leica-R: 180 3.4 Apo-Telyt-R (Leitax)
Rollei QBM: 135 2.8 Rolleinar (Leitax), 50 1.4 HFT
Canon: 50 1.8, 40 2.8
M42: Helios 50 2.0, Jupiter-37A, Jupiter-21 200 4.0
Binocular: Hensoldt & Wetzlar DF 8x30
http://andreaverdi.altervista.org/ Vivaldi lives in my lenses.... |
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JohnBee
Joined: 11 Mar 2010 Posts: 179
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:55 am Post subject: My contribution... |
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JohnBee wrote:
I don't think I have any 3D lenses per say, but if I had to choose, I'd say this is the most 3-D'ish lens I own. Unfortunately, this image was taken at ISO6400 and much of the microcontrast was lost as a result. However, at lower ISO, I find this lens renders a strong depth effect under certain conditions.
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peterbald
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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peterbald wrote:
3D?
Sonar 150/4 _________________ Nikon D700
Kodak SLR/n |
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Pancolart
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
No. A POP. _________________ ---------------------------------
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Babu Bhatt
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: Best 3d effect lenses...suggestion? |
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Babu Bhatt wrote:
sinner79 wrote: |
Which are best 3d effect lenses? Any suggestions?
Thank a lot! |
High-quality German lenses by Leica and Zeiss have been described as having a '3-D' effect, though I have never understood what this meant. A certain combination of optical properties, under certain conditions, sometimes gives a dramatic image that some people call a '3-D' effect. I don't worry about it myself, or look for it. Don't worry about it. I used to use a lot of Kodachrome 25 with my Leicaflex cameras and lenses, and I did note a rather 'realistic' image quality was obtained from time to time, almost life-like and three-dimensional. But I attributed it as much to the Kodachrome as to the lens. It is an elusive thing in any event, and now that K25 is gone....oh well!
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5309/5616854483_68d5226930_b.jpg |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: Best 3d effect lenses...suggestion? |
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peterqd wrote:
Now even though this image is fantastically sharp and the background is blurred nicely, I don't see any pop in it myself. I imagine that's because there isn't enough blurred area in the picture, and what there is is too indistinct.
So it seems that pop happens when the subject is very sharply focussed and the background is only partially blurred and also continuous around the subject. So it is a happy coming together of various factors:
Distance to the subject
Distance to the background
Focal length
Aperture setting
Lens sharpness
Do you think the type of film has any real influence? _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Pancolart
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Best 3d effect lenses...suggestion? |
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Pancolart wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Now even though this image is fantastically sharp and the background is blurred nicely, I don't see any pop in it myself. I imagine that's because there isn't enough blurred area in the picture, and what there is is too indistinct.
So it seems that pop happens when the subject is very sharply focussed and the background is only partially blurred and also continuous around the subject. So it is a happy coming together of various factors:
Distance to the subject
Distance to the background
Focal length
Aperture setting
Lens sharpness
Do you think the type of film has any real influence? |
Certainly! Film is partially responsible for color vividness and grain (detail & definition) can add or take away some of the realism. You did not mention the factor of "image representation size" above. You cannot feel 3D in small images. One important factor is also contrast (shadows). Few things can also improve dimensionality: substance in air (snow, rain, fog) and having objects that proceed throughout photo from close to far distance (road, wall, fence...). _________________ ---------------------------------
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Babu Bhatt
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Best 3d effect lenses...suggestion? |
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Babu Bhatt wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Now even though this image is fantastically sharp and the background is blurred nicely, I don't see any pop in it myself. I imagine that's because there isn't enough blurred area in the picture, and what there is is too indistinct.
So it seems that pop happens when the subject is very sharply focussed and the background is only partially blurred and also continuous around the subject. So it is a happy coming together of various factors:
Distance to the subject
Distance to the background
Focal length
Aperture setting
Lens sharpness
Do you think the type of film has any real influence? |
Yes, of course the film matters.
That lens (the 560mm Telyt-R f/6. is a cemented single-group, two-element design. It produces a very interesting image quality. I think it is due to the construction, in part, which allows the lens to have extraordinarily high contrast. The design is deliberately simple to provide light weight and high contrast. This design cannot be adapted to a high speed (f/6.8 is about the largest aperture) because it would not be sharp, but who wants to carry around a 560mm f/4 lens? I sure as hell don't. The lens is extraordinary in every way.
Here are some more:
[/url]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5261/5616786671_2143463a52_b.jpg[url]
[/url]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5069/5617369648_b82e838d23_b.jpg[url]
[/url]http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5062/5580754164_96e5b70531_b.jpg[url]
Here is the lens:
[/url]http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00F/00Fnn8-29067284.jpg[url]
The only part with glass is in the front; the rest is empty.
[/url]http://www.cameramate.com/images/11445-3.jpg[url]
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peterqd
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Thanks, I guessed there are other factors involved - I should have added "any more?"
I don't see 3D in any images unless I'm wearing red/cyan glasses at the cinema and even then it's fleeting. I keep losing it. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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