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Layer-cake
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 560 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:02 pm Post subject: Bell & Howell 2 inch 1.2 projector lens |
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Layer-cake wrote:
a bit of a silly question really, I picked up one of these projector lenses and the Registration distance capable in its current design won't allow for infinity focus.
what I'm wondering is will it be possible to change the optical design of the lens to increase the registration distance possible by rehousing the lenses and either increasing or decreasing the distance between the lens groups? |
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Layer-cake
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 560 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Layer-cake wrote:
after looking at it again I think I might be able to shave enough metal off it to get infinity, but it will be snug! |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I don't think so need infinity from an 1.2 projector lens, get enough working distance for half portrait should enough. _________________ -------------------------------
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Layer-cake
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 560 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Layer-cake wrote:
i do agree with you, I think my need with the lens conversions to always get infinity on them has driven me to try and get it on this one!! I'll still shave off some of the metal as at the moment its infinity limit is about 1.3 meters and there is quite a bit of metal I can remove;) or I could turn it into a macro lens...??
the next issue after that is finding a helicoid wide enough to fit the lens. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I've chopped the back part of projector lenses off to get infinity. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:53 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Layer-cake wrote: |
i do agree with you, I think my need with the lens conversions to always get infinity on them has driven me to try and get it on this one!! I'll still shave off some of the metal as at the moment its infinity limit is about 1.3 meters and there is quite a bit of metal I can remove;) or I could turn it into a macro lens...??
the next issue after that is finding a helicoid wide enough to fit the lens. |
due speed and no blades macro lens is bad idea, how sharp lens wide open did you try it already ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Layer-cake
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 560 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Layer-cake wrote:
lloydy I didn't even think of that but now that you mention it I sort of understand how that could work.
Attila, the lens is a bit of an awkward design and I can't stop enough stray light hitting the sensor while holding it with my hand, I'll cut out some foam and try again to see what results I get, the dof isn't as thin as I thought it should be but that is probably me hold the lens at a slight angle. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
This is how I used a projector lens, The camera mount is a T2 mount with the center part removed, just undo three grub screws and the mount comes apart. A short bit of sink plastic waste pipe is a good fit into the T2 mount. I taped it in place after experimenting with the length.
The lens I cut down at the back by about 1/2 inch, again by experimenting. and I built the diameter of the lens body up with wide electrical insulation tape until it slid nicely in the waste pipe. Once the lengths were right I taped the pipe to the mount.
There's nothing permanent except chopping the back of the lens off, and I think it would still work ok in a projector.
_________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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Layer-cake
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 560 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Layer-cake wrote:
that is pretty cool:) I think I'm going to go all out with this lens conversion, I bought a meopar 180mm 4.5 lens this morning at the market as it has a huge aperture system and I'm going to see if I can rehouse the lens elements from the bell and howell into a system with a helicoid and a working aperture!
much studying on lens design is going to be needed for this me thinks!! I really enjoy this type of thing:) |
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Layer-cake
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 560 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Layer-cake wrote:
lol it seems the 180 meopta is a large format lens that's also rather scarce!! I can't destroy something like this so I'll have to think of something else to use. |
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