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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio ....
The 80-250/3.8 zoom (properly documented in Tamron/Adaptall-2 sites) and 300/5.6 (not doc'ed) are actually fairly common in fixed mount. In the US most are seen in third party brands such as Bushnell, etc.
And there are even Adaptamatic lenses with Adaptall mounts, though normally with significant cosmetic differences. Some types mainly known as Adptamatics were reissued with the early Adaptall mounts. Not documented in either Tamrons nor the Adaptall-2 site.
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks everyone for your kind words.
To answer drjs' question, the image has been cropped to 16:9 and the sky exposure adjusted in LR5 - otherwise as is from camera.
The camera is my Pentax K-10D, so not swimming in megapixels like a D800 might be.
To help with the lens ID a little more, here are some additional images.
Forgive the slightly soft focus but it is early morning here and the light is so so. (Handheld slow exposure)
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guardian
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guardian wrote:
| Oldhand wrote: |
Thanks everyone for your kind words.
To answer drjs' question, the image has been cropped to 16:9 and the sky exposure adjusted in LR5 - otherwise as is from camera.
The camera is my Pentax K-10D, so not swimming in megapixels like a D800 might be.
To help with the lens ID a little more, here are some additional images.
Forgive the slightly soft focus but it is early morning here and the light is so so. (Handheld slow exposure)
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OK, lens porn pure and simple. Considering the amazing photograph in the OP, and then looking at that lens all glass and metal and no plastic in sight, well, . . .
This is like finding a beautiful woman who also can cook!!
One thing though:
That Adapt-A-Matic 28 lens does not have a fixed mount. I'd bet my Graflex on it. |
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Hmmm
That looks a lot more "Adaptamatic" than I thought it might.
Thats a spitting image of a removable Adaptamatic M42 mount, pin linkage, label, etc., it seems to be there.
The only false note is the chrome ring.
Does the chrome ring unscrew ?
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BeardsAreBest
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BeardsAreBest wrote:
Wow what an awesome Photo!
This Oldhand fella really got some skills right here.
Have to find a Tamron like this one and have a play.
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
| luisalegria wrote: |
Hmmm
That looks a lot more "Adaptamatic" than I thought it might.
Thats a spitting image of a removable Adaptamatic M42 mount, pin linkage, label, etc., it seems to be there.
The only false note is the chrome ring.
Does the chrome ring unscrew ? |
Well, we have had a look and removed the small screw, but nothing wants to unscrew.
Still, why have a small screw if not to lock the ring.
Can't give you an answer I'm afraid.
OH
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Wow what an awesome Photo!
This Oldhand fella really got some skills right here.
Have to find a Tamron like this one and have a play.
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mo
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mo wrote:
That is a nice lens that you have and a great image,I can only hope to capture an image like that. 
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guardian
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guardian wrote:
You have a very interesting lens there, Oldhand. Your efforts to solve the mystery are appreciated. In light of what you wrote, I might have to withdraw my offer to bet my Graflex. But rest assured you have helped would-be Adapt-A-Matic buyers, myself included.
The Adapt-A-Matic lenses go back a bit . . . . 1969 to 1972 if memory serves . . . . and that's just from memory. Some technical details have become lost, I suppose, in the mists of time's passage. At the bottom line you obviously already know, and you have demonstrated very capably, that it's a great lens. This will have to suffice for now.
ETA
OK, FWIW. Here is a link to the standard reference we all use for Adapt-A-Matic lenses:
http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/Adapt-A-Matic_LensIndex.html
I needed to read that again since I got the years wrong. Regardless, there is mention of the fixed mount version and the difficulty finding documentation regarding that version.
What always stood out for me with some Adapt-A-Matics was the red fringing vs. purple fringing. I think that is a pretty cool and distinctive property. |
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks folks.
I know that my son got lucky when he bought this lens and he hasn't stopped smiling since.
I doubt that I will get another go at it haha.
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| That is a nice lens that you have and a great image,I can only hope to capture an image like that. |
Thanks Mo, there are some beautiful places around your neck of the woods. The Gilmore Valley has so much to offer and I never was able to find the time to exploit its photographic potential.
Another great spot is just off to the left after the cow and calf on the Batlow Rd. There is a fantastic view across the valley to the Bribabellas. Best in winter when there is snow on the tops.
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guardian
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guardian wrote:
Well, Oldhand, this thread finally exhorted me to act. And if this does not work out I will blame YOU!!  (JK)
Seriously, I just bought a copy of the Adapt-A-Matic 28mm here:
Click here to see on Ebay
If that lens has a fixed mount (seller says "no" in his description) I'm gonna be so toasted. It'll become a parts lens. |
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mo
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mo wrote:
I am aware of the Gilmore view, its a case of finding a safe place to take a photo without getting run over.
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
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Well, Oldhand, this thread finally exhorted me to act. And if this does not work out I will blame YOU!! (JK)
Seriously, I just bought a copy of the Adapt-A-Matic 28mm here:
Click here to see on Ebay
If that lens has a fixed mount (seller says "no" in his description) I'm gonna be so toasted. It'll become a parts lens. |
Happy snaps
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| I am aware of the Gilmore view, its a case of finding a safe place to take a photo without getting run over. |
I had forgotten that 
Such beautiful country around there.
Have you been up to the Blue Waterholes yet?
Camped there for a few days with my son when he was a little tacker. If you do go and you find a lens hood for a Tamron SP 24-48 at the bottom of the waterfall - it was mine haha
My son is now an avid photographer - who'd a thunk!
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mo
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mo wrote:
I have not been there but have heard its a great spot to go....I need to get out of the flowers and into landscapes
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
| mo wrote: |
| I have not been there but have heard its a great spot to go....I need to get out of the flowers and into landscapes |
There are some fabulous frost hollows out that way as well. Great basins of grass surrounded by trees. Along the edges just inside the trees are brumby trails. They walk the trails to check for danger in the hollows before going into them to feed. You can see mounds of dung which are territory markers along the trails.
Great memories
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mo
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mo wrote:
I have heard of and seen the Brumbie markers along the side of the road. There have been debates about killing(culling) the Brumbies off,getting them out of the National park. 
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2014 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| I have heard of and seen the Brumbie markers along the side of the road. There have been debates about killing(culling) the Brumbies off,getting them out of the National park. |
Yes, that has been an issue for years. When I was there there were contractors who had a permit to capture brumbies from the park but it was very dangerous work. The stallions were very protective. Interestingly, the colours in the brumbies that I have seen are mostly dull charcoal and dirty brown and very dirty grey, and once they hit the tree line they vanish - very effective camouflage amongst that vegetation.
Wild dogs are a bigger problem up there IMHO.
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mo
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mo wrote:
I think they are having success with the wild dogs,the brumbie debate will go on.Politicians or Politics should stay out of the bush
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guardian
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 1:02 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
| Oldhand wrote: |
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Well, Oldhand, this thread finally exhorted me to act. And if this does not work out I will blame YOU!! (JK)
Seriously, I just bought a copy of the Adapt-A-Matic 28mm here:
Click here to see on Ebay
If that lens has a fixed mount (seller says "no" in his description) I'm gonna be so toasted. It'll become a parts lens. |
Happy snaps
OH |
Thanks. That's very kind and I appreciate your good cheer. However:
It appears I might have gone astray ever so slightly. After further review I have discovered:
Oldhand your lens (actually your son's lens, I realize) is the ORIGINAL version of this Adapt-A-Matic lens. As such, it differs optically from the later version I bought.
There are, in reality, FOUR versions of this Adapt-A-Matic 28mm lens!! Here is the reference:
http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/PFH-28Au.html
It's only JMHO, but I view your lens as being quite special. |
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sceptic
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sceptic wrote:
I have a very similar lens, but mine has "F.I.M" on the name ring and has a 62 mm filter thread, as mentioned here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamron
Auto Tamron 28/2.8 by scepticswe, on Flickr
Here with a FD to Fuji-X adapter mounted
Auto Tamron 28/2.8 by scepticswe, on Flickr
There is no mentioning of a 62 mm version on the adaptamatic website, though, so I'm a bit puzzled about what version I have.
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Minolfan
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Minolfan wrote:
According to http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamron your lens might be the Adapt-A-Matic mount lens 28 mm f/2.8 with 62 mm filter type PFH-28Au. But one of the two named versions that are not yet described and pictured yet one the Adapt-a-matic page. |
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BeardsAreBest
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BeardsAreBest wrote:
So,
As i'm a little bit new to the whole world of manual focus goodness from the past,
I thank all here for all the insight.
But regardless of all the specs and years and confusion over this lens, i would have to just say that it performs so well!
and not only on a Pentax mount as it was intended but the old canon does a not too bad job as well.
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2014 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Great lens BAB.
Very nice pictures as well.
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DigiChromeEd
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
While browsing I came across your post Thomas. Went straight to ebayUK and found this lens for £14.99 stg. Needless to say, I've bought it and look forward to using it on my newly acquired Minolta XE-1.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181479005692?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
Good on you Edgar.
I hope it is a good one for you.
I look forward to seeing how it performs.
Happy snaps
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