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Argus 58mm f1.7 (Mamiya)
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:47 am
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:47 am
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I am wondering if anybody knows the "register" distance of this lens. I have looked around the web and cannot find sufficient information. I have not posted any inquiry at Ron Herron's Mamiya forum yet. This came with a Argus 35mm SLR- image in the next post. The camera is beyond my restoration potential-but I plan on hanging on to it just in case I get a surge of enthusiasm, the time and resources.








Thank You

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This is the camera . Its in very bad shape. From besides what I can see, and the cosmetic condition- the mirror is missing the shutter button is not there and the film advance knob is held on by a slotted screw.





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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:02 pm
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how many battles your camera was in ? A lot, sure. Although is something crude, it's nice to recover.

I don't know the register, but you can know it only measure the distance from the external part of the camera mount to the film.

Ron has a great site but Argus/Mamiya is, like almost all the 50's and 60's makers, an enigma to solve.

Rino.


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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:29 pm
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I don't know the register, but you can know it only measure the distance from the external part of the camera mount to the film.

You make a very good point. I will have to resort to that.

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how many battles your camera was in ? A lot, sure.


Lots of battles I am sure .

Thanks


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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:30 pm
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It looks a lot like Nikon, but I believe this was a unique mount.


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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:18 pm
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luisalegria:It looks a lot like Nikon, but I believe this was a unique mount.


The mount looks like a Minolta Md mount. It s screwed on the back end of the lens, and has set screws on the side like some Exaktas. It is unique.I have not opened it yet.

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Relayer:Argus bayonet 44.45mm

I measured the Film to Flange-it confirms

Thank you all your replys

Regards


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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:30 am
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Following up on an older post- I am very close to fully finishing converting the mount by way of a T-Mount that has been shaved on the inside. I have some images of the conversion and some closeup test images, and I am thoroughly loving this old lens. On a side note there are 10 blades in the iris.



Lens mount with set screws on the side removed


Lens mount removed and T-mount to Minolta/Sony AF on the left ready to take its place.


Insides of the T-mount shaved (6mm all around)-in this case.


Newly converted mount on Argus lens.



The conversion is not fully finished-I need to make the T-mount thinner, and shave a line off the mounting boss- in order to reach infinity-that will come in time. I am loving taking close up shots for now Very Happy .

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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:37 am
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Some test shots :

@f 4.5

@f1.7

@f2.8

@f3


Regards


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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:29 am
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The camera looks a lot like the Mamiya-built Ricoh Singlex and Nikkorex F twins.


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Seele wrote:
The camera looks a lot like the Mamiya-built Ricoh Singlex and Nikkorex F twins.


But it does not have the Copal shutter. More correctly, it is a Mamiya Prismat with proprietary bayonet mount. I have seen this same camera with Mamiya markings on it. I believe "WP" was the model designation.

I believe the register distance is one or two milimeters less than M-42, as I have an M-42 adapter for this camera.

Here's my take on it from 2002...

http://sites.google.com/site/casualcollectorproject/Home/argus

Bill


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Yup, that's the model before Mamiya became the first manufacturer who adopted the Copal Square shutter. The styling is still similar though.
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