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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:58 pm Post subject: Any Strobists Here? |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
As the title says. I enjoy all forms of photography (except modeling photography when the models don't show) and shoot many things, but the Strobist movement caught my interest as you create your own light rather than using the available.
It's a subject that rarely crops up here, so I ask: anyone else into off-camera flash techniques? _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
i gave up strobism as a young man. (sorry; couldn't resist.) _________________ Paul
I chase Light
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indianadinos
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 1310 Location: Toulouse, France
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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indianadinos wrote:
From time to time, as long as i have a few hours available (small flat, cannot have my setup up and running all the time) ... Like to play with reflectors, transparencies and the like.
Unluckily, it doesn't happen every weekend to have a bit more spare time ... _________________ Please visit my blogs Shooting with a Pentax K10D / FF Visions
Takumar: 24/3.5, 28/3.5, 35/2, 35/3.5, 50/1.4, 55/1.8, 85/1.8, 105/2.8, 120/2.8, 135/3.5, 150/4, 200/4
Pentax-K: M28/2.8, K28/3.5, M50/1.4, A50/1.7, M50/4 Macro, K85/1.8, K105/2.8, K135/2.5, M200/4, M70-150/4
Zeiss: Flektogon 20/2.8, 20/4, 35/2.4, 35/2.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Biotar 58/2, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer: Primagon 35/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Orestor 135/2.8
Schacht/Steinheil: Travenar 90/2.8, Travenon 135/4.5, Quinar 135/2.8, Quinar 135/3.5
Russian: MIR 37B, Industar 50/3.5, Helios 44M & 44M-2, Jupiter 37A
P6: Flektogon 50/4, Biometar 80/2.8, Orestor 300/4
Nikkor: Nikkor-O 35/2, Micro 55/3.5, Nikkor-S 50/1.4, Nikkor-Q 135/2.8
Fuji: EBC 28/3.5, EBC 55/3.5 Macro, EBC 135/2.5
Misc Lenses: Kiron 105/2.8 Macro, Tamron SP90/2.5
... and a few other Vivitar, Tamron, Sigma and Soligor lenses ...
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I used to do quite a bit of it, but not for many years. Currently the only way I can is with film cameras, but haven't had any reason to do any for quite some time.
I didn't get way off into complex setups the way some folks do. Usually just a couple of strobes, one PC-synced to my camera and the other using a slave sync, both shot through umbrellas or light boxes. Strobes set to manual settings, and I'd adjust output according to their relative distance to the subject and the effect I wanted. I would determine exposure using my Gossen Luna Pro F. The Strobes I used most often were pretty old school -- Metz 60 CT-1 and Braun F900. Sometimes for front fill I might use a Vivitar 285 mounted on or near the camera. _________________ Michael
My Gear List: http://michaelmcbroom.com/photo/gear.html
My Gallery: http://michaelmcbroom.com/gallery3/index.php/
My Flickr Page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11308754@N08/albums
My Music: https://soundcloud.com/michaelmcbroom/albums
My Blog: http://michaelmcbroom.com/blogistan/ |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Available light is any light available, which includes flash if you have them in your bag
Jokes aside, I make about 50-60% of my photography income from shots set up with 2 (sometimes 4) small, portable flashes triggered wirelessly.
Studio lights are for studios, but I could never carry them around for what I do: 90% is shot on location. Those small portable flashes carry enough punch to light up a pitch-black swimming stadium once you learn to start playing pool with the lightbeams. More importantly, they're potent enough to wash out most indoor light, which normally consists of 3-4 different color temperatures.
Custom modified color profiles loaded into camera plus portable wireless flash. Praise to Japanese engineers and programmers who save me from spending hours in post-processing masking multiple layers with unique white balance settings, doing focus stacking or color adjustments... just 5min of setting things up and I'm on the job; getting the color I want, not what was available. _________________ Vilhelm
Nikon DSLR: D4, D800, Nikon D3, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/1.2 Ai, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 135/2.8Q, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 16/2.8D Fisheye, 16-35/4G VR, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28/1.8G, 35/1.4G, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G VR, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4G, 85/2.8D PC-E Micro, 105/2D DC, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 135/2D DC, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/2.8G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR, 800/5.6E VR
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G
Topcor: Auto-Topcor 58/1.4,
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180 |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5044 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
There is really a movement:
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/02/welcome-to-strobist.html
I googled "cheap flash". Tried to recommend yio yao or smth that costs about $ 30 and has slave and manual control. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
AF: Canon, Tokina, Sigma Video: JVC GZ-MG275E |
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larsr
Joined: 25 Jun 2009 Posts: 272 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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larsr wrote:
David Hobby is highly regarded, even Joe McNally gives him credit. And I'd have to agree, Strobist is one of the most useful sites for flash photographers on the net.
I love shooting with strobes. As Vilhelm said, small flashes go a long way if just learn to use them! _________________ Lars
Bodies:
DSLR: Nikon D200
SLR: Nikon FA, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Zeiss Ikon Icarex 35TM
35mm: Voigtl�nder Vitoret
Nikkor MF
24/2.8K AI'd, 28/2.8 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 Micro, 35-70/3.5 AIS, 85/1.8K AI'd, 100/2.8 Series E, 105/2.5 AI, 105/2.5 AIS, 135/3.5 AI, Nikkor 180/2.8 ED AIS, 200/4-Q AI'd, 300/4.5-H AI'd
M42
Misc: Vivitar 28/2.5, Chinon 28/2.8, Cosina Auto Cosinon 50/1.8, Revue Auto Revuenon 50/1.8, Mamiya 50/2, Auto Flex 55/1.7, Cosina Cosinon 135/2.8 MC, Vivitar 135/2.8, Petri 200/3.5 CC Auto
Zeiss: Carl Zeiss (Ikon) Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Pancolar Electric 50/1.8 MC, CZJ Biotar 58/2 T, CZJ Sonnar MC S 135/3.5
Asahi-Pentax: SMC-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, SMC-Takumar 135/3.5
USSR: Mir-1 37/2.8 (1958 GP), Helios 44-2 58/2
Pentacon/Meyer: Pentacon 29/2.8 MC, Pentacon 50/1.8 MC Electric, Meyer G�rlitz Oreston 50/1.8, Meyer G�rlitz Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 200/4
Nikkor AF
50/1.8 D, 60/2.8 Micro, 55-200/4-5.6 G VR, 70-300/4-5.6 ED, 18-70/3.5-4.5 G
Wantlist
Nikkor 105/1.8, Nikkor 135/2
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
My flash count is currently threatening my 50mm lens count. I use Viv 285, Nikon SB-28s and a Canon 580exii. Al triggered with Skyports & slave units. Numerous modifiers & gels.
I like it but I don't do as much as I'd like to. I was part of a local Strobist group but unfortunately it went pear-shaped as it was always the same location, same models & photogs. I may start my own group up and see what occurs. And shoot something other than just models (yawn!). _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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FernandoB12
Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Posts: 231 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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FernandoB12 wrote:
My strobist stuff. I have two light tripod too.
An exemple
_________________ Camera: Nikon D80 Canon 20D Pentax Spotmatic
Manual Lens: Nikkor 24mm f/2.8; Nikkor Ai 50mm f/1.4; Nikkor 50mm f/2.0; Nikkor Micro AI 55mm f/3.5; Nikkor H 85mm f/1.8; Nikkor P.C 105mm f/2.5; Nikkor Q 135mm f/2.8; Nikkor P 180mm f/2.8; Nikon Series E 75~150mm f/3.5;
SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4; SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8; Super Takumar 85mm f/1.9; Takumar S-M-C 120mm f/2.8; Takumar S-M-C 200mm f/4; Tele Takumar 300mm f/6.3
Vivitar Series 1 Macro 105mm 2.5
Helios M44-4 58mm f/2; Soligor 350mm f/5.6; Soligor 135mm f/2.8;
AF Lens: AF-S Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED; AF Nikkor 70-210mm f/4-5.6; |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6950 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
Nice work Fernando.
I have seen grids like yours made from plastic straws which is what I guess yours is. Have you any examples of its use? I have a snoot that I was thinking of loading with straws but I'm not sure if the effect is too harsh. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
I have a more boring approach, to my defence I may say I got one SB-800 for free and the rest is purchased used.
2 Nikon SB-800, 2 minitripods, 4 bouncers, 2 strobe packs, velcro straps and 1 Nikon SU-800 wireless flash controller fit nicely in a small Underwater Kinetics case. I carry these around a lot which explains the overkill protective case. Manfrotto 175F spring clamps travel as well, though they go in my camera bag.
The only thing I want to solve is how to charge the set - I need a total of 22 (yes, twenty-two) 2700 mAh rechargeable AA batteries, but the only chargers I have found charge only 4 batteries at a time. That means 6 chargers and 6 sets of 4 batteries - half a dozen electrical outlets and wires
Alkalines aren't an option, too environmentally unsound and expensive in the long run. _________________ Vilhelm
Nikon DSLR: D4, D800, Nikon D3, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/1.2 Ai, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 135/2.8Q, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 16/2.8D Fisheye, 16-35/4G VR, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28/1.8G, 35/1.4G, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G VR, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4G, 85/2.8D PC-E Micro, 105/2D DC, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 135/2D DC, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/2.8G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR, 800/5.6E VR
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G
Topcor: Auto-Topcor 58/1.4,
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180
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FernandoB12
Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Posts: 231 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:12 am Post subject: |
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FernandoB12 wrote:
Martin,
Here is a link that explains how to do the grid. Take a look at the part two in the end of the article.
http://lightingmods.blogspot.com/2007/06/diy-black-straws-snoot-grid-part-1.html
http://lightingmods.blogspot.com/2007/11/diy-gridsnoot-template-pdf-files.html
I suggest you to take a look at http://strobist.blogspot.com. You will find a lot of tips.
x lucius,
you have the dream gear of every one. Congratulations!!! _________________ Camera: Nikon D80 Canon 20D Pentax Spotmatic
Manual Lens: Nikkor 24mm f/2.8; Nikkor Ai 50mm f/1.4; Nikkor 50mm f/2.0; Nikkor Micro AI 55mm f/3.5; Nikkor H 85mm f/1.8; Nikkor P.C 105mm f/2.5; Nikkor Q 135mm f/2.8; Nikkor P 180mm f/2.8; Nikon Series E 75~150mm f/3.5;
SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4; SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8; Super Takumar 85mm f/1.9; Takumar S-M-C 120mm f/2.8; Takumar S-M-C 200mm f/4; Tele Takumar 300mm f/6.3
Vivitar Series 1 Macro 105mm 2.5
Helios M44-4 58mm f/2; Soligor 350mm f/5.6; Soligor 135mm f/2.8;
AF Lens: AF-S Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED; AF Nikkor 70-210mm f/4-5.6; |
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larsr
Joined: 25 Jun 2009 Posts: 272 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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larsr wrote:
Esox lucius wrote: |
The only thing I want to solve is how to charge the set - I need a total of 22 (yes, twenty-two) 2700 mAh rechargeable AA batteries, but the only chargers I have found charge only 4 batteries at a time. That means 6 chargers and 6 sets of 4 batteries - half a dozen electrical outlets and wires :(
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I've pondered the same, and seems like the only option is to get a Maha Powerex charger for eight cells - ie. one of these:
Maha Powerex MH-C808M
Maha Powerex MH-C801D
Maha Powerex MH-C800S
PS. I'll call you later on today :) _________________ Lars
Bodies:
DSLR: Nikon D200
SLR: Nikon FA, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Zeiss Ikon Icarex 35TM
35mm: Voigtl�nder Vitoret
Nikkor MF
24/2.8K AI'd, 28/2.8 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 Micro, 35-70/3.5 AIS, 85/1.8K AI'd, 100/2.8 Series E, 105/2.5 AI, 105/2.5 AIS, 135/3.5 AI, Nikkor 180/2.8 ED AIS, 200/4-Q AI'd, 300/4.5-H AI'd
M42
Misc: Vivitar 28/2.5, Chinon 28/2.8, Cosina Auto Cosinon 50/1.8, Revue Auto Revuenon 50/1.8, Mamiya 50/2, Auto Flex 55/1.7, Cosina Cosinon 135/2.8 MC, Vivitar 135/2.8, Petri 200/3.5 CC Auto
Zeiss: Carl Zeiss (Ikon) Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, CZJ Pancolar Electric 50/1.8 MC, CZJ Biotar 58/2 T, CZJ Sonnar MC S 135/3.5
Asahi-Pentax: SMC-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, SMC-Takumar 135/3.5
USSR: Mir-1 37/2.8 (1958 GP), Helios 44-2 58/2
Pentacon/Meyer: Pentacon 29/2.8 MC, Pentacon 50/1.8 MC Electric, Meyer G�rlitz Oreston 50/1.8, Meyer G�rlitz Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 200/4
Nikkor AF
50/1.8 D, 60/2.8 Micro, 55-200/4-5.6 G VR, 70-300/4-5.6 ED, 18-70/3.5-4.5 G
Wantlist
Nikkor 105/1.8, Nikkor 135/2
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Jieffe
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 754 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Jieffe wrote:
FernandoB12 wrote: |
My strobist stuff. I have two light tripod too. |
Looks like my gear ...
For your burned Metz, there is a to fix. I had the same problem with my metz 32. The lens can be removed and cleaned quite easily. |
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Jieffe
Joined: 04 Nov 2007 Posts: 754 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Jieffe wrote:
Esox lucius wrote: |
The only thing I want to solve is how to charge the set |
Take the DIY route ... SLA batteries and fake batteries (google for DIY SLA powerpack) will give you fast recycle times and long autonomy.
I've made mine with a ... Nesquick box (yeah, I'm cheap, I know)
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FernandoB12
Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Posts: 231 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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FernandoB12 wrote:
Hi Jieffe,
Great job. I am trying to clean the Metz lens right now... _________________ Camera: Nikon D80 Canon 20D Pentax Spotmatic
Manual Lens: Nikkor 24mm f/2.8; Nikkor Ai 50mm f/1.4; Nikkor 50mm f/2.0; Nikkor Micro AI 55mm f/3.5; Nikkor H 85mm f/1.8; Nikkor P.C 105mm f/2.5; Nikkor Q 135mm f/2.8; Nikkor P 180mm f/2.8; Nikon Series E 75~150mm f/3.5;
SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4; SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8; Super Takumar 85mm f/1.9; Takumar S-M-C 120mm f/2.8; Takumar S-M-C 200mm f/4; Tele Takumar 300mm f/6.3
Vivitar Series 1 Macro 105mm 2.5
Helios M44-4 58mm f/2; Soligor 350mm f/5.6; Soligor 135mm f/2.8;
AF Lens: AF-S Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED; AF Nikkor 70-210mm f/4-5.6; |
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