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vilva


Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 551 Location: Vantaa, Finland
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: An easy way to salvage underexposed digicam photos |
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I accidentally bumped into an easy way of getting quite reasonable B&W photos out of even very underexposed digicam shots. I was post-processing some of the photos I had taken in the very dimly lit Uspensky Cathedral and while working in LAB space I noticed that the L layer presented an almost normally exposed B&W image. Here is the tell-tale shot, first in colour:
then the L layer:
Having noticed this, I dug up some old photos taken with a Sony DSC-F505 and started experimenting. Here is a representative image pair, a photo taken without flash in a candle-lit restaurant:
The original seems almost hopeless, but the B&W version is quite OK for many purposes and , IMHO, much preferable to a photo taken with flash:
The procedure is very easy: 1) convert into LAB space and 2) delete the A and B layers leaving just the L layer. That's it unless you want to adjust the black level or contrast, but that isn't usually necessary. It couldn't be much easier or faster.
More digicam examples at http://galactinus.net/vilva/retro/lab_bw.html
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LucisPictor


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 7760 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, the LAB-mode is really useful (also for sharpening problematic pictures).
Noise is clearly visible, but it resembles the classical film grain which kind of suits a b&w shot well.
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bob955i

Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1815 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like I really should upgrade from PSE2.....
Thanks for the heads up.
I've converted problematic colour images to B&W in the past with good results but obviously not using this method as PSE2 doesn't have LAB mode. |
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vilva


Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 551 Location: Vantaa, Finland
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| LucisPictor wrote: | | Yes, the LAB-mode is really useful (also for sharpening problematic pictures) |
Suitably sharpening the L layer gives a lot of punch even to the Cooke photos, here is a 5D crop after slight L layer USM:
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vilva


Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 551 Location: Vantaa, Finland
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| bob955i wrote: | Looks like I really should upgrade from PSE2.....
Thanks for the heads up.
I've converted problematic colour images to B&W in the past with good results but obviously not using this method as PSE2 doesn't have LAB mode. |
Get GIMP, it's free,
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bob955i

Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1815 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Veijo wrote: | | Get GIMP, it's free, |
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patrickh

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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Try gimpshop:
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