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Oldhand
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 Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:19 am Post subject: Agfapan Vario-XL |
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Oldhand wrote:
I found this unused roll of Agfapan Vario-XL 120 floating around the bottom of a camera bag and decided to see if it had any life left in it.
It's expiry date was 1983 - so it is only 33 years out of date. 
It is so old that there are cracks in the emulsion, however here are a few images from it.
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Teemō
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Teemō wrote:
It's like a mandatory Instagram filter.
I like the tones and contrast in the first image. |
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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It's like a mandatory Instagram filter.
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Haha yes, and it is random.
Every frame is different
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TrueLoveOne
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:05 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
I've shot many rolls of expired film, but never had cracks like these! I actually like it!
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| I've shot many rolls of expired film, but never had cracks like these! I actually like it! |
Thanks - yes it does have an old world look to it doesn't it.
Maybe someone can create a pre-set overlay for LR or PS that generates random cracking like these 
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miran
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miran wrote:
Just wonderful! I really like #2!
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you Miran.
Here are two more from the same roll
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hemmo
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| Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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hemmo wrote:
Wonderful results!  #2 from the first set my favourite!
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| Wonderful results! #2 from the first set my favourite! |
Thank you hemmo.
I have found a second roll, so will give it a workout as well.
Cheers
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Roll finished and off to the lab tomorrow.
Unfortunately it has to be sent away for processing and the results take three weeks.
Patience is still a virtue
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kds315* wrote:
Excellent results!! Looking forward for more!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| Excellent results!! Looking forward for more! |
Thank you Klaus. I am surprised by the resilience of the film after such a very long time.
I spent some hours today down in the river upstream from where we live. My son came too and took this image of my camera when I took a break for coffee
The Agfapan shots were all taken via the Bronica.
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
My son was kind enough to send me a picture that he had taken whilst I was busy shooting.
Here 'tis
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Olivier wrote:
Very nice photos !
Old is gold...
I like the last one too, congrats to your son.
What was is camera for this one ?
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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Very nice photos !
Old is gold...
I like the last one too, congrats to your son.
What was is camera for this one ? |
Thank you Olivier.
My son shot on a Sony A7
I am the one with the Bronica
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Olivier wrote:
I too have a Bronica (ETRSi) with 2.8/75mm since 2 weeks and just received a 3.5/150mm.
I didn't have time until now to give it a try.
Dilemna now :Fuji Across 100 or Kodak TMax-400 ?
or I have some old rolls :
- ORWO SchwarzweiB Negativfilm NP27 400asa made in GDR... so minimum 26 years.
- Ilford FP4 Plus 125 exp date Oct 2003
- Kodak Ektachrome 100 Plus exp date march 2004
I asked for your son's camera because of the square format.
You look fantastic ! 
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
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I too have a Bronica (ETRSi) with 2.8/75mm since 2 weeks and just received a 3.5/150mm.
I didn't have time until now to give it a try.
Dilemna now :Fuji Across 100 or Kodak TMax-400 ?
I asked for your son's camera because of the square format.
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Thank you for the compliment.
I am sure that he has cropped this shot - I think maybe a 100mm Canon FD was the lens, as I saw him using it during the day.
I don't have any TMax but the Fuji ACROS is very good, two stops slower though, and that might make a difference.
The FP4+ should also be very good.
I am making all my mistakes with my out of date film before I start on the fresh rolls -
I was shooting with the 40mm PE lens last Monday and it is shown in the photo.
I have the 75/2.8 in an EII and the 150/3.5 in the older MC
#2 in the first series was shot with the 150mm as was #2 in the second series.
#1 in the second series was shot with the 75mm
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Olivier
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Olivier wrote:
These are very good lenses as far as I can see on your shots.
I should do like you do : write the shooting conditions on a notebook.
Thank you Thomas.
PS : your avatar seems to come from the same session and your son's A7. 
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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These are very good lenses as far as I can see on your shots.
I should do like you do : write the shooting conditions on a notebook.
Thank you Thomas.
PS : your avatar seems to come from the same session and your son's A7. |
Yes you are right about the avatar.
I have recorded the shooting data and will post it here for you later.
I have to spend a few days away and am leaving soon.
I will add details when I get beck.
Cheers
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Olivier wrote:
Have a nice trip.
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BeardsAreBest
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| Oldhand wrote: |
| Olivier wrote: |
I too have a Bronica (ETRSi) with 2.8/75mm since 2 weeks and just received a 3.5/150mm.
I didn't have time until now to give it a try.
Dilemna now :Fuji Across 100 or Kodak TMax-400 ?
I asked for your son's camera because of the square format.
You look fantastic ! |
Thank you for the compliment.
I am sure that he has cropped this shot - I think maybe a 100mm Canon FD was the lens, as I saw him using it during the day.
I don't have any TMax but the Fuji ACROS is very good, two stops slower though, and that might make a difference.
The FP4+ should also be very good.
I am making all my mistakes with my out of date film before I start on the fresh rolls -
I was shooting with the 40mm PE lens last Monday and it is shown in the photo.
I have the 75/2.8 in an EII and the 150/3.5 in the older MC
#2 in the first series was shot with the 150mm as was #2 in the second series.
#1 in the second series was shot with the 75mm
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Can't wait to see the images from the Bronica upstream.
The lens on the A7 for the shots of Oldhand was Nikkor*ED 400mm f5.6. |
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Olivier
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Olivier wrote:
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Can't wait to see the images from the Bronica upstream.
The lens on the A7 for the shots of Oldhand was Nikkor*ED 400mm f5.6. |
Hi Thomas' son.
Does the A7 look tiny and unbalanced with that long gun ?
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BeardsAreBest wrote:
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Hi Thomas' son.
Does the A7 look tiny and unbalanced with that long gun ? |
Hello,
Yeah does look pretty small on there, perfectly balanced though. |
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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These are very good lenses as far as I can see on your shots.
I should do like you do : write the shooting conditions on a notebook.
Thank you Thomas.
PS : your avatar seems to come from the same session and your son's A7. |
OK, some details on shooting.
The lenses have already been mentioned
#1 1/60s f16
#2 1/500s f5.6
#3 1/15s f11
Second series:
#1 1/250s f11 lens: 2.8/75 EII
#2 1/500s f8 lens: 3.5/150 MC
Hope this helps
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| Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thank you very much Thomas.
Because of rolls age, did you increase exposure time, or set a higher Iso on the lightmeter to adjust the exposition, or did you set the light results without any compensation ?
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