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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:40 pm Post subject: A bunch of high quality 28mm lenses |
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Pontus wrote:
I am so looking forward to getting an A7S camera now that the prices are coming down. I have this bunch of 28mm lenses to try out, I wonder which one will be best on full frame.
Maximum aperture
1. Konica Hexanon UC 28/1.9
1. X-Fujinon 28/1.9
1. Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9
2. Olympus Zuiko OM 28/2
3. Contax G 28/2.8
4. Konica Hexanon 28/3.5
Minimum Focus Distance
1. Konica Hexanon UC 28/1.9 - mfd 18cm
2. X-Fujinon 28/1.9 - mfd 30cm
2. Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 - 30cm
2. Olympus Zuiko OM 28/2 - 30cm
2. Konica Hexanon 28/3.5 - 30cm
3. Contax G 28/2.8 - 50cm
Weight
1. Contax G 28/2.8 - 150g
2. Konica Hexanon 28/3.5 - 215g
3. Olympus Zuiko OM 28/2 - 247g
4. X-Fujinon 28/1.9 - 285g
5. Konica Hexanon UC 28/1.9 - 363g
6. Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9 - 390g
Weight with adapter
1. Contax G 28/2.8, Kipon - 213g
1. Contax G 28/3.5, Metabones - 286g
2. Konica Hexanon 28/3.5, Fotga - 300g
3. Olympus Zuiko OM 28/2, Novoflex - 347g
4. X-Fujinon 28/1.9, Kiwi - 353g
5. Konica Hexanon UC 28/1.9, Fotga - 446g
6. Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9, Minolta Novoflex - 475g
Length with adapter, excluding mount
1. Contax G 28/2.8, Kipon - 40mm
2. Konica Hexanon 28/3.5, Fotga - 65mm
3. Olympus Zuiko OM 28/2, Novoflex - 71mm
4. X-Fujinon 28/1.9, Kiwi - 79mm
5. Konica Hexanon UC 28/1.9, Fotga - 85mm
6. Vivitar Series 1 28/1.9, Minolta Novoflex - 88mm _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015)
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calvin83
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
It would be better go for the A7RII if you want to know who is the best. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
It would be better go for the A7RII if you want to know who is the best. |
Not really, there is much more to a lens than just the resolution. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
calvin83 wrote: |
It would be better go for the A7RII if you want to know who is the best. |
Not really, there is much more to a lens than just the resolution. |
I think these lenses are all sharp enough and that they should all outresolve the A7S. The A7RII would be great and those small differences in sharpness would be easy to demonstrate. But I tend to agree with Ian, especially when it comes to a ff camera there are many factors to consider such as vignetting, distorsion, colour and micro-contrast.
But yes, I would choose the A7RII over the A7S if it wasn't for the 2000 euro price difference. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I look forward to seeing the results. Only one of them I have is the Hexanon 3.5/28 and it's imho, superb (exact same version as yours).
It's much easier to find a great 35 than a great 28, in my experience. Best I have are the Hexanon 3.5/28, Minolta Rokkor-SG 3.5/28, Mamiya SX 2.8/28, Minolta AF 2.8/28 and X-Fujinon 3.5/28. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I would think that the Hexanon 1.8/28 and the Fujinon 1.9/28 play an important role in the challenge. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Envious collection of great 28s! Only missing one I can think of is the Pentax K 28 f/3.5.
I only have the Hexanon 28 f/3.5 from your group. I also think it's a superb 28mm. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
Also missing is the Contax Hollywood and the 28/2.8 Distagon _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015)
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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fwcetus
Joined: 12 Jun 2015 Posts: 303 Location: New England
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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fwcetus wrote:
WNG555 wrote: |
Only missing one I can think of is the Pentax K 28 f/3.5. |
Pontus wrote: |
Also missing is the Contax Hollywood and the 28/2.8 |
The above two posts suggest to me that one very important one missing is the Pentax K 28/2 "Distagon"/"Hollywood".
Also, I have been finding that I like the Vivitar (Komine) 28/2 Close Focus better than the VS1 (Tokina) 28/1.9. _________________ Fred
If you saw a fellow drowning, and you could either save him or photograph the event . . . What lens would you use ? |
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
You are missing shift 28: Pentax shift 28/3.5 and nikon PC 28/3.5.
The Biogon will give color shift with A7r.
Distagon 28/2 and Pentax K 28/2 both have similar rending.
Distagon 28/2 has the size of a 100mm lens, while Distagon 28/2.8 is relatively small. |
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l9magen
Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Posts: 326 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:04 am Post subject: |
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l9magen wrote:
The G Biogon does indeed gice colour cast on both the A7r and A7ii, and corners aren't great on the A7r. The C/Y Distagon (f2. was better: less colour cast and better corners.
I guess this is a rangefinder v SLR performance issue.
As mentioned, the A7rII might be best since the sensor performance has be upgraded to handle RF lens performance. _________________ Lochlann
Digital Camera: Leica MM246 & M10
RF lenses: Zeiss ZM, assorted Japanese LTMs & Nikkor-S |
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fwcetus
Joined: 12 Jun 2015 Posts: 303 Location: New England
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:50 am Post subject: |
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fwcetus wrote:
hoanpham wrote: |
Distagon 28/2 and Pentax K 28/2 both have similar rending.
Distagon 28/2 has the size of a 100mm lens, [...] |
The K 28/2 is also quite large -- in fact it's both longer and heavier than the separate Pentax K 120/2.8 and Pentax M 120/2.8 lenses (although all three lenses and many others have the same diameter). _________________ Fred
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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uhoh7
Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:04 am Post subject: |
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uhoh7 wrote:
I'll be very interested to see which is the best
Real world, the FE 28/2 is not very expensive and will out-perform any film 28 on the A7s or any A7, though it is not at the level of the 25/2 Batis.
If you mod the sensor, then these 28s would do very very well on the A7s.mod
Regardless, with the stock A7s all should look very good in the center of the image, and edges may come in equidistant to the center by f/8
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:06 am Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
60-200$ sounds too cheap for pentax k 28/2. I hunted this lens for years, never seen this price. perhaps just a lucky bargain. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:55 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I bet a Schneider Super-Cinelux 2/28 would give the Hollywood Distagon a run for it's money. The Cinelux can be had for 60 bucks. I don't have one but I do have a 2/30 Super Cinelux, it's amazing. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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fwcetus
Joined: 12 Jun 2015 Posts: 303 Location: New England
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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fwcetus wrote:
hoanpham wrote: |
60-200$ sounds too cheap for pentax k 28/2. I hunted this lens for years, never seen this price. perhaps just a lucky bargain. |
Yeah -- I never could figure where the "$60" came from (in an article from 2013). Perhaps it's the original "street" price from the late 1970's (?).
In any event, the current price for an excellent copy is well over an order of magnitude greater than that.
There is one "Pentax 28 F2 SMC K RARE ZEISS Collaboration Lens" on eBay right now - http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/131650886814 - that has a BIN price of $425, and it's not only, in the words of the seller, "a shooter's lens" (or, as one member of the Pentax Forums descriptively put it, "Looks like it was ridden hard and put away wet"), it's also been sadly crippled to use on FF Canon bodies (having had its aperture lever rudely ground off) -- and you get all that for your $425. _________________ Fred
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
I'm adding lens data to my first post. _________________ Follow this link for my FOR SALE list (partially updated 19.11.2015) |
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