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50mm (Carl Z, Canon FD, Pentacon) opened to max power :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:10 am    Post subject: 50mm (Carl Z, Canon FD, Pentacon) opened to max power :) Reply with quote

Hi All

From the previous post asking for lens rating...one suggestion that came up was that I should go out and test them and let you all know....yip.

Well this 30min test was fun but in no way conclusive as to which is best.

I guess all 3 are great...and all that I have learned is that this is not the way to compare lens....with differant speeds.

This is the flawed as it does not taking into account DOF.
Guess next time I will just try take the best image with correct settings for the condisions.

Setting:
ISO200
All opened wide (Carlz =2.8, Canon =2, Pentacon=1.Cool
Sutter speed adjusted to control the exposure (some shots at 1/4000 and still over exposed)
3 Scenes to compare (Closeup, Midrange, Infinity)

Some conclusions:
1) Love Prime MF lenses
2) Carl and Pent have much closer range to the Canon.

Let me know if you see anything I missed....as I'm just getting started.

PS images have only been stacked on top of each other and reduced to 20% no other editing.






PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think you should test them separately , not against each other.
test them alone to see if each lens produces satisfying results, not as a group.
group tests are for lenses with same or similar specs ( for example 50mm lenses with 1.8 maximum aperture)


PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, getting that many lenses all at once is a mixed blessing, you'll be testing for weeks or months to get a feel for everything Twisted Evil

Most nifty 50s are pretty darn good, you might have to work hard to pick a winner! On the plus side you'll probably get great pics from any of them so there's no downside to picking a 50mm at random and shooting away.

If you're comparing lenses against each other you might want to do a torture test, see which ones do better shooting against the sun, then you'll know which ones to take shooting outside. Which ones are sharpest at f/8, they're probably all real sharp to be honest but you might have a bad copy, buying used gear. Color rendition is subjective and frankly I can't think of a systematic way to comprehensively test, but take a stab at it and see what you get.

If that sounds too much like work... just pick a random lens and start shooting! Just remember which lens you used for what shots, I have a terrible habit of sitting down at the computer afterwards and not being able to remember. Rolling Eyes


PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi WolverineX

I agree, when I was half way though doing this test, it struck me how silly this was.....lens on off on off....shake em all about.

What I'm really trying to do is to choose a kit list that will fit a sling bag....I have quite a few 50's including a PB mount 50/2.4 and a Helios 44M 58/2.....and was hoping for an order of which is best optically.

I could then try my hand at first and second and see which I got on best with.

I'm slowly learning that I will just have to just try them one at a time....

From a newbie perspective there seems to be a lot of emphasis put on fast lens but does this make them better. (less optical distortion, better colour, etc)

Anyway thanks for the advise.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuzzywuzzy wrote:
Heh, getting that many lenses all at once is a mixed blessing, you'll be testing for weeks or months to get a feel for everything Twisted Evil

Most nifty 50s are pretty darn good, you might have to work hard to pick a winner! On the plus side you'll probably get great pics from any of them so there's no downside to picking a 50mm at random and shooting away.

If you're comparing lenses against each other you might want to do a torture test, see which ones do better shooting against the sun, then you'll know which ones to take shooting outside. Which ones are sharpest at f/8, they're probably all real sharp to be honest but you might have a bad copy, buying used gear. Color rendition is subjective and frankly I can't think of a systematic way to comprehensively test, but take a stab at it and see what you get.

If that sounds too much like work... just pick a random lens and start shooting! Just remember which lens you used for what shots, I have a terrible habit of sitting down at the computer afterwards and not being able to remember. Rolling Eyes



Thank Fuzzywuzzy.....Some great advise there.....Will also look into this Torture test(somehow I keep thinking magnify glass and ants and don't want to kill the Sensor).....

Guess I'll just have to have fun playing with them all Wink

Re- the remembering which lens was used ....would be good if the Firmware allowed one to input ones MF lens list and be able to select it so it tags the files........very easy one for them to code....


PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saffersteve wrote:

Guess I'll just have to have fun playing with them all Wink


YES!
while trying to find out which one is best optically..get a feel for which one 'handles' best, which is most convenient in 'use', which one you 'like' best Wink


PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saffersteve wrote:
Hi WolverineX

I agree, when I was half way though doing this test, it struck me how silly this was.....lens on off on off....shake em all about.

What I'm really trying to do is to choose a kit list that will fit a sling bag....I have quite a few 50's including a PB mount 50/2.4 and a Helios 44M 58/2.....and was hoping for an order of which is best optically.


i use manual lenses for over 2 years and still haven't got a kit list that you are talking about...because that would mean neglecting my other babies Wink