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walter g
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 Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:14 am Post subject: 1955 Jupiter 11 13.5cm f4 Red P |
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walter g wrote:
Finally found one cheap. I just happened on this one.  Is this the best version of the Jupiter 11?
This is the LTM version, correct?
Click here to see on Ebay
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MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
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adent
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adent wrote:
Congrats, I have never gotten anything that cheap on ebay. At least not a lens. |
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std
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std wrote:
yes this is LTM 
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eddieitman
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:25 am Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
I tbink i need to coin a phrase here And add to the mflenses dictionary
I got it for a Walter G price
Everytime i see a thread from walter you manage to bag some super great lens for less than the change i have in the ashtray in the car
Look forward to samples from this i love my 11a and if its any better than that it must be amazing
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walter g
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:33 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
| adent wrote: |
| Congrats, I have never gotten anything that cheap on ebay. At least not a lens. |
Thanks, I've been pretty lucky.
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MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
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walter g
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:34 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
| std wrote: |
| yes this is LTM |
Thanks, that is the version I wanted.
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Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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walter g
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:40 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
| eddieitman wrote: |
I tbink i need to coin a phrase here And add to the mflenses dictionary
I got it for a Walter G price
Everytime i see a thread from walter you manage to bag some super great lens for less than the change i have in the ashtray in the car
Look forward to samples from this i love my 11a and if its any better than that it must be amazing |
Thanks , I'm looking foward to trying this lens. It seems harder to get bargains on Russian lenses in the US.
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Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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fotomachi
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:57 am Post subject: Re: 1955 Jupiter 11 13.5cm f4 Red P |
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fotomachi wrote:
| walter g wrote: |
Finally found one cheap. I just happened on this one. Is this the best version of the Jupiter 11?
This is the LTM version, correct?
Click here to see on Ebay |
The Zenit-M39 version was introduced only in the 1960s.
Also, the Jupiter-11 for SLR is considerably "fatter". The RF versions are slim tubes.
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walter g
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| Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:05 am Post subject: Re: 1955 Jupiter 11 13.5cm f4 Red P |
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walter g wrote:
| fotomachi wrote: |
| walter g wrote: |
Finally found one cheap. I just happened on this one. Is this the best version of the Jupiter 11?
This is the LTM version, correct?
Click here to see on Ebay |
The Zenit-M39 version was introduced only in the 1960s.
Also, the Jupiter-11 for SLR is considerably "fatter". The RF versions are slim tubes. |
Thank you.
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MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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walter g
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:17 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
 I got it today. It shipped Monday from Montreal canada. Wow that was quick.
What a beautiful lens. I will try to post some sample pics tomorrow, if I get home in time.
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MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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std
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| Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
It supposed to be a nice and sharp lens despite of being with only 4 elements.
A deep lens hood may be of help as it has flare in strong sunlight.
I have very nice pictures taken with the same lens on Oly Pen but mine was made later in 70-ies.
Maybe i will get myself one of those earlier ones again - this time in Kiev mount:)
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walter g
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| Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
I had time for a couple quick pics this evening.All at f4
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Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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Lloydy wrote:
Mine's not the RED P version, and as yet I haven't tried it. But if it's anywhere near as good as this I'll be very happy.
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Well done Walter, you found a superb lens at an incredible price. the 1950s Jupiters with red P are stunning lenses, what you have there is in effect a Zeiss Sonnar 4/135 as 1955 is the first year they started making Jupiters from their own glass, but they were precisely copying the Zeiss glass on Zeiss machines with Zeiss technicians. Up until 1954 they were assembling Jupiters from actual Zeiss glass they took as war reparations.
Lots of info on sovietcams.com, here is the page for the J11:
http://sovietcams.com/index.php?2125494681
Your lens is PT8215.
Later J11s without the red P can be every bit as good, but the younger the lens, the greater the copy variation is the generally accepted rule of thumb.
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walter g
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:27 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
| Lloydy wrote: |
| Mine's not the RED P version, and as yet I haven't tried it. But if it's anywhere near as good as this I'll be very happy. |
Thanks.
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Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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walter g
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:30 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Well done Walter, you found a superb lens at an incredible price. the 1950s Jupiters with red P are stunning lenses, what you have there is in effect a Zeiss Sonnar 4/135 as 1955 is the first year they started making Jupiters from their own glass, but they were precisely copying the Zeiss glass on Zeiss machines with Zeiss technicians. Up until 1954 they were assembling Jupiters from actual Zeiss glass they took as war reparations.
Lots of info on sovietcams.com, here is the page for the J11:
http://sovietcams.com/index.php?2125494681
Your lens is PT8215.
Later J11s without the red P can be every bit as good, but the younger the lens, the greater the copy variation is the generally accepted rule of thumb. |
Thanks, Ian. I'm looking foward to shooting more with this lens. I hope to add more Red P lenses as my money allows, and thanks for the info.
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MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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Eugen Mezei wrote:
I think that line "beginning fungus" explains the price. |
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
| Eugen Mezei wrote: |
| I think that line "beginning fungus" explains the price. |
No. Should of still made atleast $25 USD. The last J11 Red P in the North American market sold for $45 USD. It was a later 1961 lens and at this price it still had a couple marks on the front lens, and mine is in better condition. By the way the fungus spread is smaller then the eraser on a pencil, and it's on thre front element only. Should be an easy clean.
It's hard to get deals on Russian lenses in the US. Atleast on the Bay. Sadly there are no camera shops whithin a 60 mile radius from my house. 
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MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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walter g
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:01 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
This is why I only have 2 Russian lenses. I wouldn't pay half that price.
Click here to see on Ebay
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Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
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Orio wrote:
Excellent pics!
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