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estudleon
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 Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: Flekt 35/2,4 vs. Pancolar 50/1,8? |
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estudleon wrote:
I need your help, guys.
Flekt 35/2,4 and Pancolar 50/1,8 are too much for me, in the similar distance focal, so I will use only one of them.
Which could be your election?
I know your good sense and knowledge, so I ask this question with all my confidence.
Thanks for all.
Rino
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Attila
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
They are not much keep both!
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007
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Location: Romania
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| Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Flekt 35/2,4 vs. Pancolar 50/1,8? |
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montecarlo wrote:
| estudleon wrote: |
I need your help, guys.
Flekt 35/2,4 and Pancolar 50/1,8 are too much for me, in the similar distance focal, so I will use only one of them.
Which could be your election?
I know your good sense and knowledge, so I ask this question with all my confidence.
Thanks for all.
Rino |
For me its the Flek 35mm. Why ? Well, because the 35mmm Zeiss is one of the best 35mm lens on the manual focus lens market meanwhile the Pancolar could be replaced by, let's say the Takumar f:1.4. Put it more simply, the 50mm Pancolar can be more easily replaced (with another 50mm lens) than the 35mm Flek (with another 35mm M42 lens).
But thats only my oppinion 
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Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
Posts: 3754
Location: Argentina
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Thanks, guys.
I will put in the camps face to face both lenses. One will win. I only carry three lenses. The 20/4, 135/3,5 MC and the 50/1,8 or 35/2,4 with two cameras - and if I can, only one.
And for portraits the J-9 (interiors pics).
Rino (I will tell you the end of the history)
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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Retro
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Location: Krautland
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Retro wrote:
The question of your thread absorbt me the last weeks.
The Flektogon 35/2.4 or 35/2.8 (aluminium) was attractive, because with digital DSLR´s they come near to a "normal" lens.
But compairing with the Pancolar 50/1,8 I found the Pancolar much better. So it is my standard lens. In a second step I had to choose between the "Zebra" or "black" version of the Pancolar. The black one looks better, but the "Zebra" went to be my favorite. My be my copy of the "Zebra" was better then the black version.
Meanwhile I only use:
- for wide angle: Vivitar Auto Wide-Angle 28/2.5 - (Kiron)
- as standard lens: Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 (85mm KB) / Zebra
- as tele: Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 (aluminium)
- and for "cult": Schneider-Kreuznach Xenar 50/2.8 (aluminium), Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black metall version) or Industar-50-2 ("Krasnogorsk", a real pancake).
I think about selling the other dozens of lenses I own... 
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Cameras: Sigma SA300 - Sigma SD9 - Sigma SD10
Lenses: Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 - Vivitar 28/2.5 - Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 - Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black) - Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 - Sigma 28-70/2.8 - Sigma 70-300/4.0-5.6 - Vivitar 28-210/3.5-5.6
Equipment: Lightmeter Gossen Lunasix - Tripod Linhof/Schiansky Kugelkopf-Panorama-Stativ, Modell 161 - Rightangle Viewfinder Minolta VN - B+W Greygradientfilter BWG 501 - B+W Circular-Pol-Filter 52E - Photo Bag Crumpler Ben's Pizza XL
Portfolio: http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/434323/default.aspx?_c02_vws=1/pc/pc?mypics=434323 |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008
Posts: 3754
Location: Argentina
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
[quote="Retro"]The question of your thread absorbt me the last weeks.
The Flektogon 35/2.4 or 35/2.8 (aluminium) was attractive, because with digital DSLR´s they come near to a "normal" lens.
But compairing with the Pancolar 50/1,8 I found the Pancolar much better. So it is my standard lens. In a second step I had to choose between the "Zebra" or "black" version of the Pancolar. The black one looks better, but the "Zebra" went to be my favorite. My be my copy of the "Zebra" was better then the black version.
Meanwhile I only use:
- for wide angle: Vivitar Auto Wide-Angle 28/2.5 - (Kiron)
- as standard lens: Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 50/1.8 (85mm KB) / Zebra
- as tele: Carl Zeiss Jena Triotar 135/4 (aluminium)
- and for "cult": Schneider-Kreuznach Xenar 50/2.8 (aluminium), Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58/2.0 (black metall version) or Industar-50-2 ("Krasnogorsk", a real pancake).
I think about selling the other dozens of lenses I own... [/quote]
Thanks, retro
In abstract, I think like you do. I feel that the Pancolar is better to me (don't have a zebra, only two MC). The pics with both will speack.
My cult lenses : summiluxM 75/1,4 and summicron M 50/2. I sold them. Without words....
Think a lot before sell lenses.!!
Regards. Rino.
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Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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