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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:24 am Post subject: Same scene, 3 different cameras |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I've already picked the one I like best, which is why I'm going after those
lenses/cams:
Not very scientific, different film as well, just a subjective observation. |
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maddog10
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
I do not like the first one, which means that is the one you like _________________ Michael Hill |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
No Mike, I like the second shot best. |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I vote for first one _________________ -------------------------------
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I vote for first one |
Thanks, Attila, that's my second choice. The first shot is with Canonet GIII,
second shot is with Konica T4 with Hexanon 40/1.8 lens, and last one is
recent pic from Yashica Electro 35 GT. |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
My vote goes to the first one but may be with a tad less saturation. _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
Maybe the film has some influence as well, which film did you use in each shot, Mike?.
BTW, my choice is #2 even if I don't like the composition (the diffussed fence in the first plane), but colours look more natural.
Jes. _________________ Jesito, Moderator
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Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Different film?
That prevents a real comparison, IMHO.
It also depends on what you want to express with a photo.
For my general liking, the first one is too saturated, even in the second one the green is a tiny bit too "green", too yellowish warm. I like the last one, but it's a little overexposed.
So a mixture between two and three would be perfect in my eyes. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
I would have said
1- canon colors
2 - takumar colors
3 - Zeiss colors
I prefer the neutral Yashica colors
but probably color processing of scanner played for a lot _________________ T* |
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naplam
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: |
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naplam wrote:
I think the major change in those three images is the lighting, the first two seem like sunset (first is maybe a bit warmer), and the third looks like sunrise, a bit overexposed. If it's different film as well, it's quite difficult to compare the lenses. |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Film used:
#1--Arista 100
#2--Kodak Gold 200
#3--Reala 100
Lighting: 1 and 2 in afternoon and 3 in the morning. Also solstice change
plays a part in quality of light.
As before, not very scientific.
Thanks for your views and comments, fellas.
Bill |
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Schnauzer
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 2155 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
If you look at the color of the trees, #3 seems the most natural although it seems a bit over exposed in places.
I think you would have to use the same film in all three cameras to get a real comparison. _________________ Ron |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
The n° 2 - hexanon 40/1,8 lens - have a reminisence of the warms leica lenses of the minolta era (middle of the 70's to middle of the 80's). Remember that konica followed the leica lenses way in some periods.
It's my favorite. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Ron, agree, using the same film in all cameras would have been of benefit.
Estudleon, Hexanons are my favorite lenses, love them! I now have two
T4's, one TC, and one T3 camera bodies. If some one wants the T3 body,
LMK as the T4 is my absolute fave in Konica. In lenses I have 50/1.4, 50/1.7,
28/3.5, 40/1.8, and the UC 80-200 zoom.
Thanks for your comments, fellas.
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Nesster
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
I left aside the color, and tried to make out sharpness - contrast & resolution. It's difficult as I couldn't really find equivalently lit bits. But of the first two I feel the first one's sharper. _________________ -Jussi
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Nesster, I have to agree, the first one seems sharper. It might be the way
I processed the image as I'm still experimenting with different processes
for negs. |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
...Lighting: 1 and 2 in afternoon and 3 in the morning.
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You can tell by the colour of the light and the shadows... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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estudleon
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
[quote="Katastrofo"]
Estudleon, Hexanons are my favorite lenses, love them! I now have two
T4's, one TC, and one T3 camera bodies. If some one wants the T3 body,
LMK as the T4 is my absolute fave in Konica. In lenses I have 50/1.4, 50/1.7,
28/3.5, 40/1.8, and the UC 80-200 zoom.
Bill[/quote]
EXCELENTS LENSES, BILL!!!!!!
Did you try the hexy 85/1,8? If you can, do it. You will be happy plus. _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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trifox
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
number 3 is the best !
tf |
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trifox
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:05 am Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Different film?
That prevents a real comparison, IMHO.
It also depends on what you want to express with a photo.
For my general liking, the first one is too saturated, even in the second one the green is a tiny bit too "green", too yellowish warm. I like the last one, but it's a little overexposed.
So a mixture between two and three would be perfect in my eyes. |
20 per cent of the second one and 80 per cent of he third one!
tf |
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