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j.lukow
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: 30 year old B+W + Zeiss glass . . . |
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j.lukow wrote:
You probably remember my quandry about developing 126 B+W film and that Larry solved it for me. As a bonus he's scanning the negs for me, but did send a couple samples - these were just quickies with no tweaking.
We were amazed by the results of this 30 year old Kodak B+W film ( I forget which film it is. Larry . . .Do you remember?)
Taken with the Contaflex126 with the 2.8 85mm Sonnar . . .
Here goes . . .
I took this while we on vacation - Fort Joseph - "archaelogical" site . . .
These were crops Larry did to check details in regard to the film's graininess . . .
This one I took when I went gear hunting in Toronto . . .
Jim _________________ EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jim, nice contrasty images with surprising detail! Good job to you and to Larry for the scanning!
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
I think that with fresh film, you'll have a VERY fine system with fantastic results.
This old film was from a rag-tag box of Verichrome Pan, Expiration Date of March 1978....of course, you can see the breakdown of the emulsion in the crop photos...but overall it was surprising indeed!
More old Verichrome Pan coming to you, Jim! Use it, and abuse it! _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
You get very nice result! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
One thing that stands out for me, Jim, is the way the triangular parts of the modern building emulate the triangular shapes of the parapets...this is a FINE composition indeed. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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j.lukow
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 858 Location: Lindsay Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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j.lukow wrote:
David my stepson thinks the old building in the Gooderham building (often called a flat iron). He sent this link . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gooderham_Building
Jim _________________ EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Jim, it didn't sink in when I read the thread title that this film is 30 years old. Incredible! Am I right that Verichrome is 125ASA? The grain in the crops is still a lot better than I can manage with up to date HP5+ (400)!! It shows the exposure was perfect. Well done! By the way, the old building looks exactly like any Victorian building in London. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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j.lukow
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 858 Location: Lindsay Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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j.lukow wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Jim, it didn't sink in when I read the thread title that this film is 30 years old. Incredible! Am I right that Verichrome is 125ASA? |
I think so I'll probably know better when I get the old cartridge back that I want to try to reload. The gentleman running the place I take the colour 126 cartridges to (soon to be joined by 120 film) said that B+W when stored properly - fridge/freezer can be used with good results as it is more stable than colour film.
peterqd wrote: |
The grain in the crops is still a lot better than I can manage with up to date HP5+ (400)!! |
I've actually noticed this myself with 400 ASA colour film that I've pushed to hard exposure wise, so I'd assume that this is a good warning when using fast B+W film to try to get the exposure right.
peterqd wrote: |
It shows the exposure was perfect. Well done! By the way, the old building looks exactly like any Victorian building in London. |
Thanks , I don't know how much credit I can take when I went with the camera's exposure choices.
Toronto does have a strong Victorian pressence architecturally as does many Ontario communities if they're old enough, and since it was built in 1892 for the firm of Gooderham & Worts - whose founders were good Yorkshire folk http://www.lostrivers.ca/points/distillerydistrict.htm
Jim _________________ EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Just to verify, it is Verichrome Pan 125.
Jim, the two rolls I threw into the box are also Verichrome Pan,
but I think the expiration is 1989...
Here's an image with Ferrania 126. I think this was with the
85mm Sonnar. The modern film does well, although I can
detect some "grain" which might be improved with Noise
Ninja or a similar tool.
I rather like the tones of Ferrania - slightly warm with a
touch of blue in the reflections (although that might be
because of the blue sky).
_________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Laurence wrote: |
Just to verify, it is Verichrome Pan 125.
Jim, the two rolls I threw into the box are also Verichrome Pan,
but I think the expiration is 1989...
Here's an image with Ferrania 126. I think this was with the
85mm Sonnar. The modern film does well, although I can
detect some "grain" which might be improved with Noise
Ninja or a similar tool.
I rather like the tones of Ferrania - slightly warm with a
touch of blue in the reflections (although that might be
because of the blue sky). |
Thanks Larry. About the blue reflections, I'm certain it IS the sky, but isn't it curious how our brain switches the blue cast off when we see it with the naked eye but not when we look at a photograph? _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 4809 Location: Western Washington State
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Laurence wrote:
Peter, I've thought the same thing before. Especially on the coast where there is a lot of blue when the clouds have gone away, leaving the very blue sky. Looking at the surf and tidepools, I don't actually "see" the blue, but when taking pictures, it really shows up. It can be advantageous to use a warming filter if possible, or at least "fix" it in the scanning process or the image editing process. Although with a digital, I bet you could correct it with the white balance. _________________
Assent, and you are sane;
Demur,—you ’re straightway dangerous,
And handled with a chain.
Emily Dickinson
Cameras and Lenses in Use:
Yashica Mat 124 w/ Yashinon 80/3.5,
CV Apo-Lanthar 90/3.5SL, (Thank you Klaus),
Pentax 645,
Flek 50,
Pentax-A 150
Pentax-A 120 Macro
Voigtlander Vitomatic I w/Color Skopar 50/2.8
Konica TC and zoom lenses (thanks Carsten)
Contax AX
Yashica ML 50/2
Yashica ML 35/2.8
Carl Zeiss Contax 50/1.4
Tamron Adaptall SP 17/3.5
Tamron Adaptall 28/2.5
Tamron Adaptall SP 300/2.8 LD (IF)
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