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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Hot chick at a cafe Reply with quote
Was: Some comparisons, Nikon 50mm E and Nikkor-S.C 50mm

Richard kindly included a Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E when he sent me the 300mm. Its significantly smaller and lighter than my Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4.

Initial quick tests were not favourable - low contrast, hazy, easily flaring. However, I later got a Nikon HN-7 hood (originally for the 85m, so a good size for 50mm on a crop cam). This seemed to affect the results quite a bit, while using it on my Nikkor-S.c made a much more subtle difference.

Today at lunch I took some comparison shots, with the hood, and the results were not bad at all (images link to flickr which has larger versions). First a street scene (actually the pizzeria where I was eating)


Nikon D40, Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E with HN-7 hood @ ISO 200, f/8, 1/400s.


Nikon D40, Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 with HN-7 hood @ ISO 200, f/8, 1/200s

Now looking up, to catch the facade against an overcast, bright sky. These are landscape so smaller to avoid infringing the 900 wide rule.


Nikon D40, Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E with HN-7 hood @ ISO 200, f/8, 1/640s


Nikon D40, Nikkor-S.C 50mm f/1.4 with HN-7 hood @ ISO 200, f/8, 1/640s

The lighting was a bit variable and I was not using a tripod, so these are not controlled tests, but do show the 50 E to be capable once care is taken with flare.


PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Perhaps a change of subject line will draw traffic Smile


PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Perhaps if we had a chance to see the face of the "hot chick" you would get more responses. All we see is the back of a chick having a diet Coke, which does not give us a clue if the chick is hot or it's just a chick Smile


PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
nice avatar Chris!

voe wrote:
if we had a chance to see the face of the "hot chick" you would get more responses

better not, we had bad experience in the past with Patrick nude Confused


PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
voe wrote:
Perhaps if we had a chance to see the face of the "hot chick" you would get more responses. All we see is the back of a chick having a diet Coke, which does not give us a clue if the chick is hot or it's just a chick Smile


Yes, that would have been better. Someone on flickr, who takes street shots with a 200mm lens, notes that this focal length places him out of 'slapping range'. Maybe I need more confidence in my street photography.


PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, nice avatar, and it's got to be tough living on the French Riviera! Laughing

The Series E 50 prime has a good reputation.


PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Quote:
Maybe I need more confidence in my street photography.


I found street photography to be all about confidence. If you can take close up shots of people without seeming like your doing anything wrong they often are more agreeable. If you are that worried about it, ask, engage in conversation first. Most won't pose but they'll continue on with what they were doing which I find the best thing. And even if they are mad and react unfavorably sometimes it makes for an interesting shot. Getting genuine sheer anger out of a model is tough. To capture someone's rage is beautiful and just as viable as any expression in studio work such as happiness or the ever-popular contemplative look. Now don't take me wrong, I would never intentionally get someone angry and I would back away immediately if I sensed that, but some people tend to overreact and very suddenly also. So always have a neck strap and a firm grip. haha


PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes a hood is the way to go - the basic optics are the same as the 50mm 1.8 ais and AF but only single coated. It's got amongst the lowest distortion of any Nikon 50mm and very high resolution but like the 100mm E suffers if left in the nude!


PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Could you have a bad Nikon 50mm f/1.8 E series?
I have had one for many years and find it so good I even stick it on my Pentax. It is better than the Takumar f1.8 55mm and f1.7 50mm but only just as they are very good lenses as well.
I have a few 20 x 16 inch prints from 35mm film done with the series E and different Nikon cameras.
I have never seen any report saying the 50mm E series is a poor lens. It is the same optical design as the normal Nikon f1.8 50mm.
The construction looks/feels poor but mine has seen a fair amount of use with no problem.


PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rob Leslie wrote:

I have never seen any report saying the 50mm E series is a poor lens. It is the same optical design as the normal Nikon f1.8 50mm.
The construction looks/feels poor but mine has seen a fair amount of use with no problem.


This is basically true for all E series lenses, I don't remember for any negative critics about them .


PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I agree that they both use a 6 elements/5groups design, which looks very similar. I don't know if the optical formulation is identical.

Series E 50mm f/1.8


Nikkor 50mm f/1.8


PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
For comparison, the optical formulation of the Nikkor-S.c 50mm f/1.4 (pdf)
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