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duckrider
 Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 437 Location: Germany
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 Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:21 am Post subject: Iloca Electric - anybody here with one? |
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 Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:21 am Post subject: Iloca Electric - anybody here with one? |
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duckrider wrote:
Iloca Electric was the first electric motordrive VF with Metering:
http://iloca.weebly.com/iloca-electric.html
manual:
http://www.bleckedermoor.de/fotomuseum/IlocaElectricManual.pdf
I'm more and more facinated by the second row of German camera manufacturers of this time, Leica is not all in the world
DKL mount was used on several models, but manufacturers did minor variations to provide changing lenses from on to an other...
http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kodak_Retina_Reflex
http://www.cameraquest.com/ret3s.htm _________________ T*homas
(from the origin land of Zeiss, an obligation )
Zeiss ZF 3.5/18, 2.8/25, 2.0/35, 2/50macro, 1.4/50, 1.4/85, 2/100macro
Nikon Df, F2AS, F2A, F3/T, FM
ALPA 11Si, Angulon 2,8/35 ; Xenar 1,9/50 ; Tele-Tessar 4/200
Leica R3 SAFARI Safari Lenses 2.8/28 ; 2/50 ; 4/180
Rolleiflex SL 350 , Zeiss 2,8/16 ; 4/18 ; 2,8/25 ; 2,8/35 ; 1,4/35 ; 1,8/50 ; 2,8/85 ; 1,4/85 ; 4/135 ; 4/200
Leica M9-P, Leica M4-2, Tri-Elmar "Wate", Distagon 2,8/21, Biogon 2,8/28, Biogon 2/35, Planar 2/50, Tessar 4/85, M-Elmar 50mm, Summicron 90
Sony alpha 7r & adapters for all lenses above |
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philslizzy
 Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4753 Location: Cheshire, England
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philslizzy wrote:
An interesting camera but 1 year outside my collection 1954 -1957 strictly.
Was the motor clockwork or battery? _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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calvin83
 Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7740 Location: Hong Kong
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calvin83 wrote:
I have the US version Graphic 35 Electric with box, case, manual and the kit lens.  _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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duckrider
 Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 437 Location: Germany
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duckrider wrote:
| philslizzy wrote: |
| clockwork or battery? |
It's the first built in battery motdrive! _________________ T*homas
(from the origin land of Zeiss, an obligation )
Zeiss ZF 3.5/18, 2.8/25, 2.0/35, 2/50macro, 1.4/50, 1.4/85, 2/100macro
Nikon Df, F2AS, F2A, F3/T, FM
ALPA 11Si, Angulon 2,8/35 ; Xenar 1,9/50 ; Tele-Tessar 4/200
Leica R3 SAFARI Safari Lenses 2.8/28 ; 2/50 ; 4/180
Rolleiflex SL 350 , Zeiss 2,8/16 ; 4/18 ; 2,8/25 ; 2,8/35 ; 1,4/35 ; 1,8/50 ; 2,8/85 ; 1,4/85 ; 4/135 ; 4/200
Leica M9-P, Leica M4-2, Tri-Elmar "Wate", Distagon 2,8/21, Biogon 2,8/28, Biogon 2/35, Planar 2/50, Tessar 4/85, M-Elmar 50mm, Summicron 90
Sony alpha 7r & adapters for all lenses above |
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scsambrook
 Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
Expire: 2011-11-18
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scsambrook wrote:
Thanks for posting this, duckrider. I've never even seen one and I'm sure it never made it onto the UK market. Interestingly, in the late 1950s the Iloca cameras that were sold in the UK were regarded by the trade as pretty much inferior to similar models from Agfa, Balda, Franka and other brands. Only the Wirgin non-slr models were thought inferior - I make no comment, I'm just recounting what I was told back then by the older guys I worked with in in the photo trade the mid-1960s. _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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jamaeolus
 Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 3198 Location: Eugene
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jamaeolus wrote:
I bought one! Cosmetically in excellent shape. Came with the Rodenstock Ysarex 50mm 2.8. (I just love the DKL mount lenses and have way more than I should). Unfortunately the battery compartment was a corroded mess. I did my best to clean and neutralize. Most of the corrosion was at the end with the bus bar so I was somewhat hopeful on function. Put some batteries in a it powered! But only a bit. Bought new batteries and put those in and it powered....weakly. The plastic battery compartment had been broken and glued, inelegantly. It is a very strange camera. Very sleek. Very few "appendages". Aside from the usual DKL Synchro-Compur controls only an exposure control dial with DIN readings on top and ASA readings on the bottom. This is mounted to the left as you face the camera. A tiny count down exposure remaining window on top of the housing must be set by a geared wheel inside the film compartment. No strap lugs. No obvious way to open the back. There is no on/off button for the motor, no back up system for film advance. To open the film compartment there is a tiny release slider which works the film rewind. Then pull out on the rewind crank, while still holding the release lever, it is when you push it back in that the back pops loose. The battery compartment is in the center of the base of the camera and is released via a screw suitable for a coin as screwdriver. It has another plastic cover under that. I will mess with it some more to see if I can make it function. If not, oh well, I bought it for the lens and am all in for under 50, and it will look nice on the shelf. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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stevemark
 Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 5303 Location: Switzerland
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stevemark wrote:
| jamaeolus wrote: |
| I bought one! Cosmetically in excellent shape. |
Very interesting camera indeed - I'm not really into those 1950s german rangefindes, even though I have a couple of them (no Iloca albeit). It's funny how all of the destinctively scream "1950s", unlike the typical SLRs where a 1951 Contax S basically looks like a year 2000 Nikon FM3a!
| jamaeolus wrote: |
| Came with the Rodenstock Ysarex 50mm 2.8. |
That's a pretty good Tessar type lens, and not that common!
| jamaeolus wrote: |
| I just love the DKL mount lenses and have way more than I should |
Show us ...!
I just have very few:
* Schneider 4/28mm, 2.8/35, 2.8/50 and 4/135
* Voigtländer 3.4/35mm, 2/50mm and 4/135mm
* Rodenstock 2.8/50mm and 4/135mm
* Braun 2.8/50mm
The Schneider wideangles (4/28 and 2.8/35) are surprisingly good for their time, and so is the Septon 2/50mm, but all those 135mm are pretty useless on modern digital cameras (not sharp => unfit for landscapes, and MFD of 4m => unfit for portraits). But all these lenses certainly are most beautiful collectors items!!
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jamaeolus
 Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 3198 Location: Eugene
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jamaeolus wrote:
 _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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