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alex ph
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 3:56 pm Post subject: Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 2.8/8cm from 1936 |
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alex ph wrote:
Following Zeiss serial number records, this Tessar was made by Jena factories in 1936. Taken from a MF camera it sitn on a Compur shutter and was attached in this way to a Chinese helicoid.
Shots are taken with Sony Nex, so APS-C, with slight PP.
I rate splendid the bokeh of this old uncoated lens.
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arri
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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arri wrote:
Very good, your sample shots are great. |
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alex ph
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Thank you, Arri!
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visualopsins wrote:
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alex ph
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Has film-esque quality. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Could bokeh here indicate some optical defect? _________________ ---------------------------------
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alex ph
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
jamaeolus wrote: |
Has film-esque quality. |
Agreed!
Pancolart, do you mean a Tessar bokeh looking alike the Trioplan one is illegitimate? I can imagine this version of Tessar is undercorrected for some specific abberations. But visually this gives a nice looking effect, at least to my taste. |
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Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
very nice lens,
needs a propper hood for colors,
i think it would shine on BW, and low and high contrast _________________ for sale: smc super takumar 135/2.5 M42, Yash ML 50/1/4, Yash DS-M 50/1.4 M42, Yash ML 21/3.5, Yash auto 50/2.8, Mir-1 37/2.5 (new!), Jupiter-9 M42+M39(new!), Jupiter-11 135, FD 100/2.8, Konishiroku Konica 100/2.8, Fujinon T 100/2.8(M42/XF), Minolta PF 58/1.4 + 1.7, Meyer O.G. 100/2.8, Meyer O.G. 50/1.8, Meyer O.G. Lydith 30/3.5, Meyer O.G. Domi 50/2.8 ... and many more |
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Pancolart
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
alex ph wrote: |
Pancolart, do you mean a Tessar bokeh looking alike the Trioplan one is illegitimate? I can imagine this version of Tessar is undercorrected for some specific abberations. But visually this gives a nice looking effect, at least to my taste. |
I mean this white dot inside a circle. Usually indicates some kind of problem in the lens system. But please correct me if i am being wrong. _________________ ---------------------------------
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alex ph
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
I saw a similar effect in threads on Fujinon 2.2/55. I am not an expert in types of optical aberration and (under)correction. It seems to me this is a pronounced coma WO, but I may have made a completely wrong idea.
Here is a similar bokeh effect from Fujinon, shot by Lloydy
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Pancolart
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Here another example of this effect. I suspect fully de-cemented elements. Did you disassemble the lens perhaps?
https://deramateurphotograph.de/2019/10/15/010-carl-zeiss-jena-tessar-f2-8-50mm-bokeh-und-unschaerfekreise/
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kiddo
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 10:10 am Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
Pancolart wrote: |
Could bokeh here indicate some optical defect? |
I've seen same effect on folding balda trioplan 7,5cm 2.9 depending on focus ,as it wouldn't show always, sometimes nice outline rings, other times inner dot inside the rings, so I guess is lens attributes; had the optics removed and clean and no issues with cement on elements |
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alex ph
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 9:48 am Post subject: |
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alex ph wrote:
Interesting finds! I haven't opened the lens and it does not look to be. I suppose, this is an optic feature proper to the design of these old lenses. |
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