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e6filmuser
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 822 Location: Reading UK
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:04 pm Post subject: Nikon 28mm f/2.8 AI-s |
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e6filmuser wrote:
I obtained a copy recently. My reasons for purchase included Ken Rockwell's praise of its performance and its close focusing ability. I have yet to shoot any images with it but I have tried the effect of extensions on its close-focusing. The following is based on my by-eye measurements with a tape measure. The lens was without a hood.
On the A7R:
The lens with no extension, at its closest focus, has a working distance of 4"/100mm. The FOV is 150mm wide.
With 12mm ext FOV is 57mm
With 20mm ext FOV is 40mm
With 32mm ext FOV is 28mm, WD ca 30mm
I don't see myself making much use of this but, in the unlikely event that I am out with wide angle lenses and little or no macro gear, there might be a fix. _________________ Dedicated to using manual focus lenses with digital. Equiped for photography from macro to panoramic & from ultra-wide to extreme telephoto. Mostly shooting outdoor macro. Experienced entomological taxonomist. Some knowledge of mushrooms. |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3133 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Very nice lens indeed. And good for creative work because of the close focus. |
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 940 Location: Poland
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:53 am Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
This lens has a floating element in order to give a better quality according to the focusing distance .
As a consequence:
using extension tube for macro is not really a good idea if you want to take advantage of the lens qualities.
choosing a precise adapter for non Nikon cameras ( Fmount) is decisive. In your case, Nikon F to NEX adapter.
The WA and UWA with floating elements need a very precise adapter giving infinity when the lens shows infinity. I experience much difference in IQ with such lenses depending of the precision of the adapter. |
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e6filmuser
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 822 Location: Reading UK
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:16 am Post subject: |
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e6filmuser wrote:
memetph wrote: |
choosing a precise adapter for non Nikon cameras ( Fmount) is decisive. In your case, Nikon F to NEX adapter. |
I had an awful one but got a good one before I obtained the lens. _________________ Dedicated to using manual focus lenses with digital. Equiped for photography from macro to panoramic & from ultra-wide to extreme telephoto. Mostly shooting outdoor macro. Experienced entomological taxonomist. Some knowledge of mushrooms. |
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e6filmuser
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 822 Location: Reading UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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e6filmuser wrote:
Here are images from April 2019, unprocessed until today (my standard processing). Nothing special about the images. Unusually, I failed to not the apertures but I'm guessing at f8.
I'm not sure how much this contributes but it may be of interest.
Nikon 28mm f2.8 AIS on EM1, hand held.
NB. I was unable to upload the first image at my usual quality (PS 12) and had to downgrade it to PS 10.
_________________ Dedicated to using manual focus lenses with digital. Equiped for photography from macro to panoramic & from ultra-wide to extreme telephoto. Mostly shooting outdoor macro. Experienced entomological taxonomist. Some knowledge of mushrooms.
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3133 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Hard to judge the images to be honest, as they are downsized a lot.
I like this lens. I like it's ergonomics and close focusing ability. It's capable of sunstars as well and image quality is good.
BUT...IMO it's a bit overrated and too expensive, probably due to Rockwell's raving review. I've tested the lens against the SMC Pentax (k version) 28mm f/3.5 a couple of years ago, and the Pentax came out a bit better, both @ close focus (30cm) and infinity. Unfortunately I can't find the pcitures anymore, but the old post is here:
http://forum.mflenses.com/nikkor-28mm-f-2-8-ai-s-vs-pentax-k-28mm-f-3-5-t81623.html
If you don't need the speed, the Pentax is highly recommended. |
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e6filmuser
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 822 Location: Reading UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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e6filmuser wrote:
Re the cost. I was £199 but I had Nectar vouchers and paid only £86. _________________ Dedicated to using manual focus lenses with digital. Equiped for photography from macro to panoramic & from ultra-wide to extreme telephoto. Mostly shooting outdoor macro. Experienced entomological taxonomist. Some knowledge of mushrooms. |
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3133 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
e6filmuser wrote: |
Re the cost. I was £199 but I had Nectar vouchers and paid only £86. |
Yeah, that’s a very good price 👠|
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1162 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
I got into a bit of a snit over 28mm lenses a couple of years ago- mostly based on having, and then not using them.
Little experience at all with the above lenses. I did have the A/I 28mm f3.5, and it was quite a good lens, especially at near subject distances, with the least distortion I've seen in a 28. Might be worth a look if you don't need the extra stop wide open.
The Ash seed pods in your first frame show very good resolution on my monitor, and look more like f5.6 to me, just based on what I've seen with various 28's on quite similar subjects.
I'm currently with the non-SP Tamron adaptall-2 28mm f2.5, and it has become one of my favorite lenses for close focus work.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
"Ain't no half-way" -S.R.V.
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e6filmuser
Joined: 12 Nov 2010 Posts: 822 Location: Reading UK
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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e6filmuser wrote:
Doc Sharptail wrote: |
I got into a bit of a snit over 28mm lenses a couple of years ago- mostly based on having, and then not using them.
Little experience at all with the above lenses. I did have the A/I 28mm f3.5, and it was quite a good lens, especially at near subject distances, with the least distortion I've seen in a 28. Might be worth a look if you don't need the extra stop wide open.
The Ash seed pods in your first frame show very good resolution on my monitor, and look more like f5.6 to me, just based on what I've seen with various 28's on quite similar subjects.
I'm currently with the non-SP Tamron adaptall-2 28mm f2.5, and it has become one of my favorite lenses for close focus work.
-D.S. |
I won't be looking at any more lenses, except for exceptional ones. I have too many I don't use. Extra stops are not an issue as I never use a lens wide open.
"The Ash seed pods" are male catkins with lots of stamens. That is the one I had reduce the quality (detail) of to upload. _________________ Dedicated to using manual focus lenses with digital. Equiped for photography from macro to panoramic & from ultra-wide to extreme telephoto. Mostly shooting outdoor macro. Experienced entomological taxonomist. Some knowledge of mushrooms. |
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gaeger
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 722 Location: Brier, Wash.
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:18 am Post subject: |
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gaeger wrote:
I have used the Nikkor 28mm f2.8 AIS, but also the 28mm f3.5 AIS, the 28mm f2.8 Series E, and a 28mm f2.8 K version that I got for $8 because there was a small coating mark. I have got fine images with all of them -- they are all capable lenses, and I don't think the f2.8 AIS close focus version is that much better to warrant its current exorbitant price (I got mine pretty cheaply, so I don't feel bad about owning one). Take them out and have fun!
_________________ "Here's to the wonder" -- Alan Boyle
Nikkor/Nikon 20, 24, 28, 35, 50, 55, 85, 105, 135, 180, 200, 300, 10-20, 18-35, 18-55, 28-50, 28-70, 24-85, 35-200, 50-300, 75-150, 80-200, 70-210, 70-300, 200-500
Minolta Rokkor 24, 28, 35, 45, 50, 58, 100, 135, 50-135, 300
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3133 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:47 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
@gaeger
Great images 👠|
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lumens pixel
Joined: 27 Feb 2019 Posts: 868
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:18 am Post subject: |
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lumens pixel wrote:
Splendid. _________________ Lumens Pixel
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Minolta SR mount: 16 2,8; Sigma SuperWide 24 2,8; 28 2,5; 28 2,8; 28 3,5; 35 2,8; 45 2,0; 50 1,4; 50 1,7; 50 2,0; 58 1,4; 85 2,0; 100 2,5; 100 4 Macro; 135 3,5; 135 2,8; 200 4; RF 250 5,6; 24-35 3,5; 35-70 3,5; 75-150 4; 70-210 4
Canon FD mount: Tokina RMC 17 3,5; 28 2,8; 35 2,8; 50 1,8; 50 3,5 Macro; 55 1,2; 135 3,5; 135 2,5; 200 4,0; 300 5,6; 28-55 3,5 4,5; Tokina SZ-X SD 270; 70-150 4,5; 70-210 f4; 80-200 4L; Tokina SZ-X 845
Tamron Adaptall: 28-80 3,5-4,2 (27A); 70-210 3,8-4 (46A); 60-300 (23A); 90 2,5 (52B); 35-135 3,5-4,5 (40A)
Tamron SP: 20-40 2,7-3,5 (266D) |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10958 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:31 am Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Colleen Wagner and wooden boats... _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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gaeger
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 722 Location: Brier, Wash.
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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gaeger wrote:
Thanks, folks. That boat photo was with the f3.5. I really liked that lens but sold it once I bought the f2.8 version, which I still have along with the $8 K version, which is fantastic (the hiker in the snow on film is with that one). I have had a couple of the Series E 28mm lenses over the years. They were fine, too. When I was traveling to New York for work, I would take one of those and a zoom of some sort for the week. With a macro-focusing teleconverter, that Series E lens did great!
_________________ "Here's to the wonder" -- Alan Boyle
Nikkor/Nikon 20, 24, 28, 35, 50, 55, 85, 105, 135, 180, 200, 300, 10-20, 18-35, 18-55, 28-50, 28-70, 24-85, 35-200, 50-300, 75-150, 80-200, 70-210, 70-300, 200-500
Minolta Rokkor 24, 28, 35, 45, 50, 58, 100, 135, 50-135, 300
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titrisol70
Joined: 14 Dec 2021 Posts: 178 Location: State of Denial
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: Nikon 28mm f/2.8 AI-s |
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titrisol70 wrote:
I got mine years ago and it is one of the best 28mm around. Havent used it much since I dont have a Digital Nikon and only take the FE for a spin once a year
e6filmuser wrote: |
I obtained a copy recently. My reasons for purchase included Ken Rockwell's praise of its performance and its close focusing ability. |
_________________ Pentaxian and proud
Cameras: Spotmatic, I and F, Pentax ME, MESuper, ME-F, P30t, K-x, MZ-5, Mz-7 // K100D, Kx, K5IIs, K3-iii
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Super Takumar 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/28, 1:1.8/55, 1:1.4/50 (7-element), 1:3.5/135
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/55, 1:1.4/50, 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:4/200
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50
Lots of M, A, F, FA, DA series lenses |
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BrianSVP
Joined: 09 Jun 2023 Posts: 335 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:24 am Post subject: |
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BrianSVP wrote:
Not a lens I've used a ton myself, but based on the examples in this thread, it certainly seems to epitomize the classic Nikon look in its "muscular" rendering. High clarity, saturated color, sharp and contrasty, but not overly clinical.
Looks like it would be a real photojournalist's delight in decades past. |
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