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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:43 pm Post subject: Petri cc auto 135mm 3.5, petri breech mount. |
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Macca wrote:
Shot on an original Petri breech to M42 adapter which gives an extension tube effect on the Alpha mount, I picked up this in mint with a 55mm f2, 35mm 2.8 and 28mm 3.5 for peanuts, from a petri flex V3 from about 1964 I think. If anyone has converted the lenses to Alpha or M42 mount and is willing to share please let me know, they look worth converting. I can get up to around 10/11 feet on the 135mm but macro with the rest.
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All wide open or stopped down a half click to f4, no pp. Standard camera settings, except 5 which may have been at 5.6. _________________ Sony A7iii.
CZ Distagon 15mm 2.8,Loxia 25mm 2.4,RE Auto Topcor 35mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 35mm1.4,Minolta M Rokkor 40mm f2, Jupiter 3 50mm 1.5, Kuribayashi CC Petri Orikkor 50mm 2,Topcor S 50mm f2,Topcor RE GN 50mm 1.8,RE Auto Topcor 58mm 1.4, Helios 44m 2,Steinheil Munchen Auto Quinon 55m 1.9,Olympus auto g zuiko 60mm f1.5 ,KMZ PO2-2M 75mm F2,Jupiter 9 85mm f2(Arsenal Kiev),RE Auto Topcor 85mm 1.8,Leica Elmarit 90mm 2.8 R, RE Auto Topcor 100mm 2.8,Meyer Orestor 100mm 2.8,,F.B.R.105mm 2.4, RE Auto Topcor 135mm 3.5,Leica Elmarit R 135mm 2.8,Steinheil Munchen Quinar VL 135mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 100-300mm 4.5-5.6, Vernon Edonar 350mm 5.5 |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Your photos are remarkably sharp with bold, vivid, colours; quite impressive, really.
You have demonstrated simultaneously the bright promise of the Petri lenses . . . and the limitations owing to mount considerations.
I began buying the Petris (I have five so far) before discovering I'm less able readily to deal with the mount dilemma than I anticipated. So I've stopped buying, at least for now. Such great and inexpensive lenses; such annoying and challenging mounts. |
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nurkov
Joined: 21 Feb 2013 Posts: 711 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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nurkov wrote:
beautiful pictures _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/34787419@N08/
Minolta and Canon user |
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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Macca wrote:
Thanks, it is a pity if the mount can`t be altered, there is a U.S. source on ebay selling adapters for NEX, despite my misgivings about its ergonomics I may have to invest in one some day.
If anyone comes up with a workaround in the meantime i`m all ears! _________________ Sony A7iii.
CZ Distagon 15mm 2.8,Loxia 25mm 2.4,RE Auto Topcor 35mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 35mm1.4,Minolta M Rokkor 40mm f2, Jupiter 3 50mm 1.5, Kuribayashi CC Petri Orikkor 50mm 2,Topcor S 50mm f2,Topcor RE GN 50mm 1.8,RE Auto Topcor 58mm 1.4, Helios 44m 2,Steinheil Munchen Auto Quinon 55m 1.9,Olympus auto g zuiko 60mm f1.5 ,KMZ PO2-2M 75mm F2,Jupiter 9 85mm f2(Arsenal Kiev),RE Auto Topcor 85mm 1.8,Leica Elmarit 90mm 2.8 R, RE Auto Topcor 100mm 2.8,Meyer Orestor 100mm 2.8,,F.B.R.105mm 2.4, RE Auto Topcor 135mm 3.5,Leica Elmarit R 135mm 2.8,Steinheil Munchen Quinar VL 135mm 2.8,Contax Zeiss 100-300mm 4.5-5.6, Vernon Edonar 350mm 5.5 |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:27 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Macca wrote: |
Thanks, it is a pity if the mount can`t be altered, there is a U.S. source on ebay selling adapters for NEX, despite my misgivings about its ergonomics I may have to invest in one some day.
If anyone comes up with a workaround in the meantime i`m all ears! |
I don't know NEX at all, so am unable to comment.
But surely the Petri breech-lock lenses can be used on m4/3 cameras, provided one has a proper adapter.
It's their use with many DSLR cameras that's problematic because the Petri lenses have a somewhat short register distance. |
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JCDowdy
Joined: 02 Aug 2013 Posts: 10 Location: Memphis, Tennessee, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:06 pm Post subject: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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JCDowdy wrote:
There is no such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter. The Petri breach lock register depth (43.5mm) is shorter than M42 (45.46mm). The so called adapters selling on dBay are actually the front ends off of extension tube sets that had M42 threaded tubes. _________________ John Dowdy |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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guardian wrote:
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There is no such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter. The Petri breach lock register depth (43.5mm) is shorter than M42 (45.46mm). The so called adapters selling on dBay are actually the front ends off of extension tube sets that had M42 threaded tubes. |
John interesting post. And welcome!
Certainly the problem with the register distances exists. I made mention of it in my post just above yours.
If you could post a link to the "adapters selling on eBay" as you call them, it would be a help. To do that, first obtain (i.e., copy) the auction number. Then click the "eBay" box above, paste the number immediately after what pops up, then click the "eBay" box above a second time to close the link.
As I wrote above, my purchases of the Petri lenses remain on hold. But somebody is buying them. The prices have risen a LOT! |
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JCDowdy
Joined: 02 Aug 2013 Posts: 10 Location: Memphis, Tennessee, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:41 am Post subject: Re: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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JCDowdy wrote:
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If you could post a link to the "adapters selling on eBay" as you call them, it would be a help. |
Here is the eBay link - Click here to see on Ebay The seller actually seems to be a good guy so please don't take this the wrong way. Yes, Petri glass is rising. I hope it is just a bubble as I am searching for a good 35mm f3.5 breach lock. _________________ John Dowdy |
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JCDowdy
Joined: 02 Aug 2013 Posts: 10 Location: Memphis, Tennessee, USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:18 am Post subject: |
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JCDowdy wrote:
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....actually the front ends off of extension tube sets that had M42 threaded tubes. |
Here is a link to a pfd manual showing extension tubes on last page
http://www.cameramanuals.org/petri_pdf/petri_ft_ee.pdf
This image excerpted from same:
I have also seen the rear flange sold seperately as an M42 to Petri adapter. Petri did sell M42 adapters in later years also.
Shame really to break up a set, I wouldn't mind such a set of tubes myself. _________________ John Dowdy |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:00 am Post subject: Re: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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guardian wrote:
JCDowdy wrote: |
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If you could post a link to the "adapters selling on eBay" as you call them, it would be a help. |
Here is the eBay link - Click here to see on Ebay The seller actually seems to be a good guy so please don't take this the wrong way. Yes, Petri glass is rising. I hope it is just a bubble as I am searching for a good 35mm f3.5 breach lock. |
John, thank you for posting that auction. Yes, that's the adapter I had seen prior; months ago to be honest.
Scuttlebutt back then was infinity focus is not possible with that adapter. And of course the adapter is not inexpensive.
Have you bought one of those and achieved infinity focus? I did not buy that adapter because of the cost and because I would like to have infinity focus. |
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lenny
Joined: 23 Feb 2013 Posts: 47 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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lenny wrote:
Try this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Petri-Petriflex-Breech-Lock-Mount-to-Sony-NEX-E-mount-NEX5-NEX7-etc-adapter-/170968509847?pt=US_Lens_Adapters_Mounts_Tubes&hash=item27ce846d97
The description doesn't agree with the heading so you'll want to make sure you're getting the right one, but I bought a miranda/nex from the same seller and am quite satisfied with it. I think the seller designs and produces them himself.
An excellent seller who even sent me a note that he was refunding me because shipping had cost him less than he had thought! |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4744 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
lenny wrote: |
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An excellent seller who even sent me a note that he was refunding me because shipping had cost him less than he had thought! |
A nice touch I think, and I have done it myself much to the surprise on buyers. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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JCDowdy
Joined: 02 Aug 2013 Posts: 10 Location: Memphis, Tennessee, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:31 am Post subject: Re: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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JCDowdy wrote:
guardian wrote: |
Scuttlebutt back then was infinity focus is not possible with that adapter. And of course the adapter is not inexpensive.
Have you bought one of those and achieved infinity focus? |
Yes, I did in fact and no it did not allow INF focus with an M42 to µ4/3 adapter on my G3. The fit was also very tight and only some of the Petri breach lock lenses would fit. The seller was most cooperative and helpful and I have since done other business with them.
Still, am perplexed as to why fit was such a problem. Must be variance in flange thickness over the span of models as Petri evolved the mount. I have since purchased Petri breach lock to µ4/3 adapters so perhaps the adapter ring in question will resume the intended function of M42 extension tube flange for macro use.
I particularly like the esthetic of the silver metal focus rings on the earlier breach lock lenses. My son says they are "steam punk" and as we all know, teens are the arbiters of cool! _________________ John Dowdy |
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JCDowdy
Joined: 02 Aug 2013 Posts: 10 Location: Memphis, Tennessee, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:41 am Post subject: |
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JCDowdy wrote:
This is the same seller I got my Petri-Petriflex-Breech-Lock-Mount-to-µ4/3 adapter from. Excellent seller indeed, especally welcome when sourcing such uncommon adapters for "orphan" mounts! _________________ John Dowdy |
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guardian
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 1746
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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guardian wrote:
JCDowdy wrote: |
guardian wrote: |
Scuttlebutt back then was infinity focus is not possible with that adapter. And of course the adapter is not inexpensive.
Have you bought one of those and achieved infinity focus? |
Yes, I did in fact and no it did not allow INF focus with an M42 to µ4/3 adapter on my G3. The fit was also very tight and only some of the Petri breach lock lenses would fit. The seller was most cooperative and helpful and I have since done other business with them.
Still, am perplexed as to why fit was such a problem. Must be variance in flange thickness over the span of models as Petri evolved the mount. I have since purchased Petri breach lock to µ4/3 adapters so perhaps the adapter ring in question will resume the intended function of M42 extension tube flange for macro use.
I particularly like the esthetic of the silver metal focus rings on the earlier breach lock lenses. My son says they are "steam punk" and as we all know, teens are the arbiters of cool! |
Thanks. Very valuable post. Adaptation of Petri breech-lock lenses is a big deal.
And I agree on the shiny focus rings. Except:
I got my bell rung badly on one. Brought in what was supposed to be a pristine 28mm and the chrome turned out to be irreparably marred. I did not forgive the seller even though the glass was perfect. Assume the original owner must have been a ring wearer. |
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JCDowdy
Joined: 02 Aug 2013 Posts: 10 Location: Memphis, Tennessee, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: Re: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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JCDowdy wrote:
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....the chrome turned out to be irreparably marred. I did not forgive the seller even though the glass was perfect....( |
I can forgive cosmetic flaws much more easily than bad glass!
I have several that are sadly the other way round. _________________ John Dowdy |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1241
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:15 am Post subject: Re: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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kiddo wrote:
JCDowdy wrote: |
There is no such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter. The Petri breach lock register depth (43.5mm) is shorter than M42 (45.46mm). The so called adapters selling on dBay are actually the front ends off of extension tube sets that had M42 threaded tubes. |
I know there's been some years since last answer, I wonder if there is any possibility to use Minolta MD (43,72) to Sony E ,by removing the MD mount and glue to the adapter the Petri camera's mount ? Maybe wouldn't reach them infinity but should be pretty close to it? For instance, maybe using a lathe to remove a bit of the adapter? |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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Gardener wrote:
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....glue... ...lathe... |
Or you can buy an adapter.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/183531447851 |
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kiddo
Joined: 29 Jun 2018 Posts: 1241
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: No such thing as a Petri breach lock to M42 adapter |
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kiddo wrote:
45+6$ would be 51$ + customs and fees would go up to 90$ or more in Spain,not really the best thing to use the 55 1.8 petri breech lock lens , isn't it? |
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Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
I guess that depends on how you value your labor and how long all the gluing and machining will take. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
An excellent sonnar type lens.
Renders beautifully
Tom
All these are shot at widest aperture - f3.5
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Here are some images shot with this very nice lens this afternoon.
Tom
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caspert79
Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Posts: 3170 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Beautiful pictures! |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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Beautiful pictures! |
Thank you - the lighting was my friend
Here is a portrait that I made of my son-in-law the same day
This was at widest aperture.
The lens is a very good sonnar type.
Tom
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