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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1680 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:22 pm Post subject: Konica AR Hexanon 28/3.5 upon Sony a7s |
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LittleAlex wrote:
-------------- _________________ "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - © H. Cartier Bresson
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1680 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
f/5.6 1/1600 s; ISO 200
There is image in the full dimension:
https://i.ibb.co/jJhcbQd/DSC07551-min.jpg _________________ "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - © H. Cartier Bresson |
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Ultrapix
Joined: 06 Jan 2012 Posts: 566 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Ultrapix wrote:
Looks very good the second one particularly... wich version? |
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1680 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
Ultrapix wrote: |
wich version? |
I recently obtained from Ebay the camera I had been dreaming very long (I am the great admirer of the Konica AR system). For $58,68 together with shipping.
And there was this lens as the pleasant addition.
Everything looks as completely unused. So, I enjoy both now. _________________ "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - © H. Cartier Bresson |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3930 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
That's a really nice set, and a preTty good price as well!
From all the Konica mechanical bodies I like the T3N ad the T4 best. They usually are OK when I buy one, while most of the T and T2 bodies have some issues including a locking shutter.
The AR 3.5/28mm was probably one of the first "modern" 28mm retrofocus designs using a relatively small front lens and one or two "intermediate" lenses replacing the large empty space found in earlier retrofocus designs. Pretty soon all other manufacturers did upgrade their 28mm and 35mm SLR (retrofocus) lenses as well, resulting in much petter performance.
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alex_d
Joined: 19 Jan 2019 Posts: 377
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
From what I have had on my apc-s with affordable vintage 35mm lenses, this one take's the badge as the ' best ' lens, taking into consideration of cost / price / result.
There is only one con: it's very very heavy for its size.
the 40/1.8 is a great option for outside |
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BrianSVP
Joined: 09 Jun 2023 Posts: 335 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:25 am Post subject: |
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BrianSVP wrote:
alex_d wrote: |
From what I have had on my apc-s with affordable vintage 35mm lenses, this one take's the badge as the ' best ' lens, taking into consideration of cost / price / result.
There is only one con: it's very very heavy for its size.
the 40/1.8 is a great option for outside |
Huh? I was going to say that if you like the all-metal build style and focal length, the Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 28mm f/3.5 is also a great lens and only weighs 212g. Excellent smooth rendition with good sharpness.
But from what I see online, the Hexanon weighs a mere 175g! Not sure how you are getting "very, very heavy" on this one. It's more or less the same weight as the "miniature" SMC Pentax-M 50mm f/2 or the Zuiko 50mm f/1.8. That's a very light lens. Perhaps you are using a heavy adapter? |
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alex_d
Joined: 19 Jan 2019 Posts: 377
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
well, i made a mistake .. have seen 28/3.5 for 35/2.8,
thats why i wrote ' 35mm ' ...
still, this 28/3.5 is a good plain lens, maybe a bit ' boring '. |
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
Expire: 2015-12-26
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Perhaps you know this website
https://buhla.de/Foto/Konica/eHexanonHaupt.html
Very helpful for Konica fans
_________________ Rolf |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3930 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Yes and no:
1) The site is very useful for getting an overview over the entire AR lens lineup, as well as for getting information on the Konica SLRs.
2) However, the information on the lens performance often is a bit "fanboyish", maybe because it was written before the arrival of FF digital cameras. Obviously the author has not compared the Konica AR lenses with corresponding lenses from other manufacturers, and quite a few statements on the optical performance of Konica AR lenses are either not really meaningful (statements such as "The lens renders very sharp images with high contrast and good colour rendition. Barrel or pincushion distortions are not visible." do appear very often ...) or wrong.
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
Expire: 2015-12-26
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
Might be.
After all, this page offers a good overview - also and especially - of the individual variants of the Konica lenses. Regardless we all know that a lens works well with one type of camera and due to special reasons not with another.
_________________ Rolf |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3930 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:36 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Rolf wrote: |
Might be.
After all, this page offers a good overview - also and especially - of the individual variants of the Konica lenses. |
Yep - and I often enjoy reading those pages!!
Rolf wrote: |
Regardless we all know that a lens works well with one type of camera and due to special reasons not with another.
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That mainly applies for fast non-retrofocus wideangles, where sensor stack thickness is an issue. Not relevant here, though.
S _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1659
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
I prefer the t3n camera.
The first prime series of AR lenses are all Konica mede by himself, no one tokina made.
In the 2nd versión the things weren't the same. The 40/1,8 is a very good Tokina lens.
I'm looking for the 85/1,8 again. |
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1680 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
papasito wrote: |
I prefer the t3n camera.
In the 2nd versión the things weren't the same. The 40/1,8 is a very good Tokina lens.
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Is it really so?! I always have been certain that it is the original Konica product!
papasito wrote: |
I prefer the t3n camera.
I'm looking for the 85/1,8 again. |
Well, I have been quite wise to keep it since 1994. _________________ "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - © H. Cartier Bresson |
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LittleAlex
Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Posts: 1680 Location: L'vov (Western Ukraine)
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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LittleAlex wrote:
papasito wrote: |
I prefer the t3n camera.
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I own it also. But to round my collection of Konica mechanical bodies I really always had dreamed about T4. _________________ "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - © H. Cartier Bresson |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3930 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
LittleAlex wrote: |
papasito wrote: |
I prefer the t3n camera.
In the 2nd versión the things weren't the same. The 40/1,8 is a very good Tokina lens.
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Is it really so?! I always have been certain that it is the original Konica product! |
The Konica AR 1.8/40mm was designed by Konica engineers, not by Tokina. Check the patents.
And it certainly was manufactured according to Konica standards.
The same applies for other late Konica AR lenses such as the AR 2.8/21mm, the AR 2.8/24mm "compact", the AR 3.5/28mm "compact", the AR 2.8/35mm "compact", the AR 5.6/400mm UC, the AR 3.5-4.5/35-70mm and the AR 28-135mm (which was produced also in a Tokina version). All were designed / patented by Konica.
It seems, however, that the (late) AR 4/80-200mm "not UC" as well as the AR 4.5/80-200mm were clones of the corresponding Tokina computations.
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chhayanat
Joined: 11 Apr 2016 Posts: 245 Location: The Cow Belt
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:22 am Post subject: |
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chhayanat wrote:
_________________ Chhayanat
Pentax-M 28/2.8; 35/2; 50/1.4; 100/2.8; 80-200/4.5; 400/5.6.
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35/2.4; Pancolar 50/1.8 (black).
Film cameras:
Zeiss Ikon Volta 135/6.3 Sonnar 9cm x 12 cm plate/sheet film;
Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 521 75/3.5 Novar (post-War) 6cm x 4.5cm
Pentax MX x 2 (black);
Digital bodies:
Pentax K200D;
Samsung GX-20; |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5078 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Very bourgeois concept lens...
Very good results for sure.
I like my Konicas and Hexanons too. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
SLr and MF lenses : for feedback and helping people, cameras and lenses I own : full list here http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1442740.html#1442740 |
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