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zzzxtreme
Joined: 10 Aug 2016 Posts: 41
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 4:50 pm Post subject: nikon slr choice |
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zzzxtreme wrote:
I'm looking for some cheap nikon slr to use with my AI lens. so I'll need aperture priority mode
Some candidates around $30-40
EM - Apparently not quite reliable ?
F810 - heavy, but large viewfinder
F501 - smaller viewfinder, lighter than F801
F301 - basically F501 without AF ?
My heart is telling me to get F301, cheapest, pretty light & small. But I worry about the viewfinder size. Should I ?
Any other models I'm missing? |
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Pete
Joined: 01 Feb 2011 Posts: 240 Location: Denver, San Jose
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Pete wrote:
Not sure how the US names match the EU names but I like the FM2n. It is aperture priority and only needs the battery for the meter. The mechanical shutter will work perfectly without the battery. It works great with AI / AIs lenses and is the one film camera I kept when I went digital. I also had an 8008s and F100. The F100 was the ultimate AF film camera but the FM2n is a really nice walk around body.
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I would invest some more money and go for an F3.
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chhayanat
Joined: 11 Apr 2016 Posts: 248 Location: The Cow Belt
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: |
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chhayanat wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
I would invest some more money and go for an F3.
Money well spent, will last forever. |
Good advice. If unafraid of fully mechanical cameras then Nikon F2AS. _________________ Chhayanat
Pentax-M 28/2.8; 35/2; 50/1.4; 100/2.8; 80-200/4.5; 400/5.6.
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35/2.4; Pancolar 50/1.8 (black).
Film cameras:
Zeiss Ikon Volta 135/6.3 Sonnar 9cm x 12 cm plate/sheet film;
Zeiss Ikon Ikonta 521 75/3.5 Novar (post-War) 6cm x 4.5cm
Pentax MX x 2 (black);
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Pentax K200D;
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
The FM2n does not have an aperture priority mode. It is manual exposure only.
For $30-40 you're not gonna find much -- eBay prices, anyway.
I don't care for Aperture Priority only cameras. I prefer those that have a manual mode also. Given that, and given your price restrictions and my own preferences, I think the closest you're gonna come is the Nikon FG. It's battery dependent, but the batteries last just about forever and they can be found most anywhere. Anyway, the FG is a very capable camera and is often overlooked because it's perceived as being too "amateurish". That's a mistake. The FG has a super accurate shutter, a decent meter, and actually a nice manual mode.
If you can manage to free up a few additional bucks, I'd go for the FE rather than the F3. The FE has a better meter readout than the F3. Like the FG, it's battery dependent, takes the same batteries. All of these cameras accept motor drives also, the MD4 for the F3, the MD12 for the FE and the somewhat uncommon MD14 for the FG. I think I read somewhere that the FG can use the MD12, but I can't vouch for that. _________________ Michael
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well if it's any help and for ideas...... for me I chose the Nikon FM mechanical camera only because it can take pre AI lenses and the F90x handy for AF also MF lenses (not pre AI lenses), but would like the F100 or F4 (also takes pre AI lenses) but are too expensive now.
With the FM it does annoy at times when shooting in the vertical position as the wind on lever has to be slightly open and sometimes ends up my nose and no I don't have a big nose _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 7:51 am Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
Nikon FA has Aperture priority, besides M, P, S modes and also have matrix metering. It is quite reliable, light and great machine to own. Although is not so cheap I can recommend this SLR. _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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kansalliskalaCafe
Joined: 23 Jul 2015 Posts: 602 Location: South Finland, countryside
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2018 6:36 am Post subject: Re: nikon slr choice |
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kansalliskalaCafe wrote:
zzzxtreme wrote: |
F301 - basically F501 without AF ?
My heart is telling me to get F301, cheapest, pretty light & small. But I worry about the viewfinder size. Should I ?
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I had it for some time didn't find the viewfider problem.
But it is still big, heavy and noisy
(ok, I've been using OM and Konica bodies lately so the size factor is relative) _________________ (my normal account password still on another computer) |
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NikonAIS
Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Posts: 227 Location: Pawleys Island, SC, US
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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NikonAIS wrote:
chhayanat wrote: |
LucisPictor wrote: |
I would invest some more money and go for an F3.
Money well spent, will last forever. |
Good advice. If unafraid of fully mechanical cameras then Nikon F2AS. |
What is there to fear?
I have 2 F2A's, one is 1976 vintage and the other 1979 vintage and I bet have put a half mile of film through both and they still work flawlessly, including the meters. The F2 is the greatest 35mm film camera ever made in my opinion. _________________ Nikon FTn, F2A, F3HP, F4E, F5, Nikkormat FT2, Nikon FE-2, Nikonos V, D850, D500 and D750. 8mm f/2.8 AIS, 16mm f/2.8 Fisheye AIS, 15mm f/3.5 AIS, 18mm f/3.5 AIS, 24mm f/2 AIS, 28mm f/2 AIS, 28mm f/3.5 Nikkor H non-AI, 25-50mm f/4 AIS, 28mm f/3.5 and 35mm f/2.8 UW-Nikkors, 35mm f/1.4 AIS, 50mm f/1.4 AIS, 50mm f/1.4 Nikkor-S, 50-135mm f/3.5 AIS, 55mm f/2.8 AIS Micro w/ PK-13, 80-200mm f/4 AIS, 85mm f/1.4 AIS, 105mm f/1.8 AIS, 10.5 cm f/2.5 non-AI, 105mm f/2.8 AIS Micro, 135mm f/2 AIS, 180mm f/2.8 ED AIS, 200mm f/4 Micro AIS and PN-11, 200mm f/2 ED-IF AIS, 300mm f/2.8 ED-IF AIS, 400mm f/2.8 ED-IF AIS, 500mm f/8 Reflex, 600mm f/4 ED-IF AIS, TC14B and TC300.
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
The f501, f801 and f301 are prone to an intermittent shutter problem, mirror goes up and down, nice click, but the shutter doesnt open. My f301 in the late 90s did it, my current f501 does it and my friends f801 does it. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4088 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
The f501, f801 and f301 are prone to an intermittent shutter problem, mirror goes up and down, nice click, but the shutter doesnt open. My f301 in the late 90s did it, my current f501 does it and my friends f801 does it. |
Does this error just happen once in a while (i. e. several "good" shoots and then one with shutter not opening), or is the error ongoing (mirror flaps, but shutter remains closed all the time)?
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Last couple of films it was okay for about six shots, then nothing, nothing, nothing, shot, nothing , nothing, shot, shot, nothing, shot, nothing, nothing , nothing, shot, shot, nothing, shot etc... totally unreliable _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 4088 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
Last couple of films it was okay for about six shots, then nothing, nothing, nothing, shot, nothing , nothing, shot, shot, nothing, shot, nothing, nothing , nothing, shot, shot, nothing, shot etc... totally unreliable |
Sounds quite annoying!
I just checked my F501, and sure it has the same problem. First twenty or so exposures were OK (shutter die open), then it starts to get wacky ... and after maybe 50 exposures the shutter opens only rarely. Long exposures (> 1/8s) were OK though.
Couldn't test my F301 (no batteries here) and my F801 (electronics are not so easy to fool ... it really wants a real film to start working ... and a closed back as well).
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Just a guess here, but I'm assuming those Nikons have vertically traveling shutters? A common problem with Canon EOS cameras as they get older is a rubber sort of seal around the shutter that begins to break down and turns to goo. When this happens, capping results as well as a sticky shutter. It settles down into a bottom channel that runs the length of the frame opening. A proper cure of this problem is to de-goo the shutter with a workable solvent -- I use denatured alcohol -- along with scooping the goo out of that bottom track. One camera tech I know uses a regular old business card. He sticks a corner in the slot and then pushes the goo out. This is a necessary part of the process. Before learning about this step, I would clean the EOS shutters only, which did a good job. But if the camera were ever stored for a long period where the goo could flow up onto the shutter again, the problem could rea-appear. _________________ Michael
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arri
Joined: 13 Jul 2014 Posts: 95
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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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arri wrote:
I have three Nikon F801s in use, always loaded with different kind of films and I don´t want to miss the cameras.
The light metering is very accurate, the camera is not so lound like other AF camera and it is very cheap, I don´t pay more than 25 Euros for each body. |
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Doc Sharptail
Joined: 23 Nov 2020 Posts: 1216 Location: Winnipeg Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Doc Sharptail wrote:
I would pass on the composite frame cameras mentioned above.
For economics and reasonably accurate metering, the Nikkormat FTN is hard to beat.
The path down the Nikon F-2 road is non-returnable.
The 100% viewfinders and stepless mechanical shutter speeds from 1/90 to 1/2000 are hard to turn your back on.
It doesn't even have to be an "A" finder or "A-S" series body.
The Photomic with the swinging needle meter is more than accurate, and will accept far more older lenses.
I should mention the F-3 here as well. Great camera that does it all with the 100% viewfinder, full manual control and an 'A' setting.
I find I don't use it as much as the F-2's I have. Completely different feel for me. I tend to get bollixed up on the stop down metering for pre-AI lenses. The swinging tab on the aperture linkage is just another thing for me to forget and get in trouble over.
If worst comes to worst and you want other choices, the Nikon FE is a fine camera to get to know. The electronics in this series are getting a little long in the tooth though. Careful, informed inspection is the buy-word on this series before you put your money down.
-D.S. _________________
D-810, F2, FTN.
35mm f2 O.C. nikkor
50 f2 H nikkor, 50 f 1.4 AI-s, 135 f3.5 Q,
50 f2 K nikkor 2x, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 35-105 3.5-4.5 A/I-s, 200mm f4 Micro A/I, partial list.
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5046 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:59 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
I bought a F90X a year ago for about 20 euros and like it very much. AA-batteries. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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