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Oldhand
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 8:04 am Post subject: Konica Hexanon AR 200mm f3.5 |
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Oldhand wrote:
A very nicely made lens that is quite heavy because of its massive glass elements.
The results are quite beautiful.
Tom
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papasito
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Great images, Tom.
Very good lens, as some konica lenses are.
Thanks for sharing |
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D1N0
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
I was wondering about this one. I think they used a Sonnar design. _________________ pentaxian |
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DigiChromeEd
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
There's a 200mm f4 as well but it's image quality is inferior. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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kds315*
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 7:14 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
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Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
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NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
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stevemark
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 7:54 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
There's a 200mm f4 as well but it's image quality is inferior. |
Is that your own experience? _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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Oldhand
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you everyone for the kind wpords
D1N0 wrote: |
I was wondering about this one. I think they used a Sonnar design. |
Yes, the lens seems to be a sonnar derivative for sure.
It does render rather beautifully
Tom
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D1N0
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 9:06 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
I agree. A comparison with the Jupiter 21m would be nice.
This review in Dutch shows the lens formula:
200mm test march 1973 Focus Magazine by The lens profile, on Flickr
This is the Jupiter 21m:
![](http://cccpcamera.stars.ne.jp/RussianCamera/Lens/Jupiter200/Jup.png) _________________ pentaxian |
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DigiChromeEd
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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DigiChromeEd wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
There's a 200mm f4 as well but it's image quality is inferior. |
Is that your own experience? |
No. Ian Greenhalgh on this forum has owned and tested a number of samples of each and concludes the f3.5 version is superior. _________________ "I've got a Nikon camera, I like to take a photograph" - Paul Simon |
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quidam
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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quidam wrote:
It was quite an expensive lens at the time.835 Dutch guilders is around 380 € ! _________________ Sony Nex 5 & 6, Sony A7II. |
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KEO
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
Wow, no wonder it's heavy considering that huge second element. That's one big hunk of glass. |
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stevemark
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:11 am Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
DigiChromeEd wrote: |
There's a 200mm f4 as well but it's image quality is inferior. |
Is that your own experience? |
No. Ian Greenhalgh on this forum has owned and tested a number of samples of each and concludes the f3.5 version is superior. |
Ah, in understand! _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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LittleAlex
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stevemark
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Today I got another version of the Konica AR 3.5/200mm, my third one (middle lens here in the image):
On the left the early preset [5/5] version with same optical construction as the F-mount Hexanon 3.5/200mm. In the middle an early version of the [5/4] computation, now with automatic aperture. On the right the last version of the Hexanon AR 3.5/200mm with rubber waffle focusing grip and green AE markings on the aperture ring. It seems that the two later versions (middle and right) share the same optical construction, but I would rather first test and compare the two version before claiming taht they perform identically.
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D1N0
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:47 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
The corresponding numbers on the distance scale and the same position of the infra red mark suggest it was just a cosmetic update. _________________ pentaxian |
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stevemark
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
The corresponding numbers on the distance scale and the same position of the infra red mark suggest it was just a cosmetic update. |
I think so too - BUT:
Iin case of the corresponding two generation of the Konica AR 2.8/35mm (both [6/5] with the "same" lens section published) things are surprisingly different!
The newer "rubber focusing" version is much better than the previous "metal focusing grip".
I have three "metal focusing" AR 2.8/35mm here; all have the same (relatively) bad performance - which means a "bad sample" can pretty much be excluded!
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Zamo
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Zamo wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
It seems that the two later versions (middle and right) share the same optical construction, but I would rather first test and compare the two version before claiming taht they perform identically.
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And I am sure you will do so and give us your results soon, right? (and I add: pretty pleaseeeeeee!) |
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stevemark
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
Zamo wrote: |
stevemark wrote: |
It seems that the two later versions (middle and right) share the same optical construction, but I would rather first test and compare the two version before claiming taht they perform identically.
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And I am sure you will do so and give us your results soon, right? (and I add: pretty pleaseeeeeee!) |
Yep ... as soon as the weather allows. We have pretty nice thunderstorms right now, as you can see from yesterdays' images below,
just taken here at my house. Same weather today, and probably all week long.
Yesterday there were about 60 mm rain within 12 hours, and nearly 30mm within 10 minutes. By the way, 60 mm is about 50% of the amount
that came down in the German flood catastrophy area of the Ahrtal within three days.
There's not much damage, though, since there's a pretty efficient (and costly) flood control system here in Switzerland.
Actually there are places with much more severe rain in southern Switzerland - the valley I used to live in a few years ago
had about four times as much rain as in the German Ahrtal (eg 450mm within three days, and 240mm rain plus
40'000 lightnings within three hours back in 2014, and nearly 500mm rain in two days in 2020).
S
(images not taken with the 200mm Hexanon, of course) _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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ektar
Joined: 09 Oct 2019 Posts: 24
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:27 am Post subject: |
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ektar wrote:
@LittleAlex: Any chance you can update the links on the pics? _________________ --
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Oldhand
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
I had a few minutes this afternoon to myself, and took the Hexanon 3.5/200 for a little walk.
Here are some images.
Fuji .jpg's - Velvia simulation
Some looked better in mono
Tom
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ektar
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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ektar wrote:
Very nice. I’ve got one on the way; will be adapting to M4/3. _________________ --
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Oldhand
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you.
Here are a few from this afternoon
Tom
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ektar
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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ektar wrote:
Again, Bravo!
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Alun Thomas
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Alun Thomas wrote:
I recently bought an Konishiroku F mount preset 200mm F/3.5 to get the F-AR mount adapter off it. Then I bought an FTA camera to get the preset 28mm F/3.5 lens with it, and it was accompanied by an early AR mount preset 200mm F/3.5 which has the same 5/5 optical formula as the earlier lens. Both needed cleaning, the AR lens did clean up, while the F mount lens had some marking I could not completely clean away. When I tested them both I noticed something slightly unusual, which is that (especially noticeable when wide open) , the performance at the edge of the image is equal and in some cases better than the center. I took some 100% crops of images taken of subjects between 200-250m away. These images are from the AR mount lens, but the F mount one was comparable.
F/3.5 in the center of the frame. Resolution is there although reduced/obscured by glow/fringing.
F/8 in the center of the frame. Resolution is good, and colour fringing now gone.
F/3.5 in the corner - quite surprisingly the image quality is better than in the center at that aperture. Resolution is slightly better, and not much colour fringing to be seen.
F/8 in the corner - the image quality cleans up further. |
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caspert79
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
This seems to be a very nice lens! |
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