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calvin83
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:55 pm Post subject: Venus Optics LAOWA 15mm f/4 1:1 Wide Angle Macro |
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calvin83 wrote:
The price in China is about 1.5 times of the Venus Optics 60mm. It should be available on their website soon.
Spec(in Chinese, the English website has not updated yet).
http://www.venuslens.com/index.php?c=content&a=show&id=42
Some details translated:
Shift range(APS-C only)±6mm
MFD 122mm
Minimum working distance(from subject to front element) 4.7mm
More photos and discussion(in Chinese)
http://forum.xitek.com/thread-1457710-1-1-2.html _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16658 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Interesting lens, yet the working distance is very short for a 15mm wide angle macro. I really wonder how they achieved those test shots with insects so close... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7576 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:58 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
They are experts on these kind of photography. That is the reason why they made both macro lens. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:26 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
15mm sounds too short to be very practical to me, as Klaus says, the working distance will be very small. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7576 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:12 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
The lens is designed for those who like to include the subject and the surroundings at the same time. It does not replace longer FL macros. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16658 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:04 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Of course not. I was just wondering how not to shy away those insects when shooting such wide angle macro. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:17 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
It seems like it's more intended for table top work than field work. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16658 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:24 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Well, I have experimented myself with such type of photography and finally ended up with a relay lens solution, just because of that. Most insects and animals just shy away when the photographer comes to close to them, so I still wonder how they coudl achieve that, except with animals being used to humans ...
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5083 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Nice shot, Klaus.
We can see you in the frog's eye
I use a Canon 100mm f2.8 macro with 30cm working distance, not to frighten insects. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
Dslr : Olympus Pen E-P2 - Fujifilm X-Pro2 - Canon 5D MkII.
SLr and MF lenses : for feedback and helping people, cameras and lenses I own : full list here http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,p,1442740.html#1442740 |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16658 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Nice shot, Klaus.
We can see you in the frog's eye
I use a Canon 100mm f2.8 macro with 30cm working distance, not to frighten insects. |
Thanks! Yep, that was the plan too, to have us both in one picture _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Great shot Klaus..........must try my Tamron 63b again. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:39 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Of course not. I was just wondering how not to shy away those insects when shooting such wide angle macro. |
Some are quite concentrated on their work, so even when I touched a bee with the front lens of a wide-angle macro setup she did not stop working their work. Afterwards she flew away. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
I AM A LENS NERD!
Epis, Elmaron, Emerald, Ernostar, Helioplan and Heidosmat.
Epiotar, Kameraobjektiv, Anastigmat, Epis, Meganast, Magnagon, Quinar, Culmigon, Novotrinast, Novflexar, Colorplan, Sekor, Kinon, Talon, Telemegor, Xenon, Xenar, Ultra, Ultra Star. Tessar, Janar, Visionar, Kiptar, Kipronar and Rotelar.
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1432
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:56 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
edited
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16658 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:00 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
It was a special magical moment indeed... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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DConvert
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 921 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:58 am Post subject: |
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DConvert wrote:
It's not a lens for shooting macro's of timid insects (without leaving the camera & using a trigger) but I think it could be extremely useful as a UWA.
The shift ability will be useful for architecture, close focus gives it the ability to shoot close ups with the environment and it should serve fairly well for other UWA uses. OK I'd like it to be faster to shoot night skies - but that would push the price up & probably introduce all sorts of problems with IQ.
I think I want one!
For those whose Chinese is no better than mine here's a link with details in English:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/venus-announces-the-worlds-widest-11-macro-lens-15mm-f4-0/ |
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Variegator
Joined: 15 Sep 2015 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Variegator wrote:
I have registered to give you a short personal review.
I got my 15mm last week and fell in love with it. The image quality is much better than expected, I'd call it even very good! It offers the possibility for very unusal photos if you get used to this lens.
I have tested it in close-up shots, architecture and landscape so far, using a Canon 6D and an IR-converted 5D (both are full frame cameras)
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- Very slight vignetting, which obviously increases when shifting
- Minimal CAs, that are easy to correct
- Very sharp in the centre, drops at the corners a bit.
- Shifting is possible even on full frame though not to the full extent and only if the lens hood is removed
- Sturdy construction, smooth handling of both the aperture ring and the focussing ring
- Colour rendition and contrast
- no hotspot on IR-modified camera
- minimum focus distance almost at the front element.
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- Moustache distortion, especially visible if you have straight lines in the lower quarter of the frame; rather strong barrel distortion at the centre
- shift mechanism - you have to pull a lever and move the lens with your fingers. The usual mechanism with a screw like on the Canon 24mm/TS-E is definitely superior.
- lens hood - quite difficult to mount, gets visible when shifting (on full frame)
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- no EXIF data - I have resorted to using exiftool to insert LensModel and FocalLength. The fNumber is obviously only possible to insert if you keep notes or do all your shots with the same setting. I am definitely too lazy for that. Too bad that Venus Optics have skimped on this part. It shouldn't have been too expensive to include such a chip.
- so far no correction profile available in Lightroom
ToDo:
Testing with all apertures
macro photos with at least 0.5:1
tests with an APS-C camera
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. I will try to answer them or do some specific test shots if possible.
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:48 am Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
Very informative! Looking forward to some real world samples. Should be interesting and unique. _________________ my flickr stream |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1839 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:03 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
that is a great lens i think! makes you think out-of-the-box, like said: to create new, unusual and interesting pictures! The cat picture from the first (official Venuslens) link is excellent.
thanks for sharing!
Cheers, René! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
Minolta and Konica collector.... slowly selling all the other stuff! |
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Langstrum
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 351
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Langstrum wrote:
I found one review on Sony Alpha forum with sample photos. It's a good macro lens but I don't see anything outstanding from it, or maybe because I'm not familiar with that kind of short range macro lens.
http://www.sonyalphaforum.com/topic/1837-new-15mmf4-venus-macro-11-review/#entry11020 _________________
Camera: Sony A7 mark III, A6300
AF Lenses:
Canon EF 50/1.8; EF 200/2.8 L, EF 200/1.8 L, EF 300/4 L Sony E mount SEL 50/1.8 OSS, SEL 16/2.8 Fuji X mount XF 35/1.4 R
MF Lenses: Peleng MC 8/3.5, 17/2.8 Samyang 14/T3.1, 35/T1.5, TS 24/3.5 ED, 85/T1.5, Polar 85/1.4 Auto Revuenon 28/2.8; MC 50/1.4 Vega11U 50/2.8 Carl Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (exakta mount) Auto Chinon 50/1.9 Zenitar ME1 50/1.7 Sears Auto Sears 55/1.4; Sears 135/2.8 Auto Yashinon DX 50/1.4; Tomioka 50/1.2 SMC Pentax 50/1.7; 50/1.4 Canon FD 50/1.4 S.S.C; 55/1.2 S.S.C; FD 50/1.2 L; FD 85/1.2 L; 85/1.2 S.S.C Aspherical; FD 80-200/4 L 300/2.8 S.S.C Fluorite FD 300/2.8 L FD 200/1.8 LCosina-S 50/1.2 Helios Helios 44 Chrome f/22, 44-2, 44-3, 44M-4, 44M-7 (58/2), Helios-40 85/1.5 Jupiter Jupiter-9 85/2; Jupiter-37A 135/3.5; Jupiter-21M 200/4 Nikon Ai 105/2.5 Tairs-3S 300/4.5
Voigtlander 15/4.5 Aspherical; Ultron 35/1.7
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7576 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:47 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Thanks for sharing your experience.
It is a product made for niche market. If one don't take any close-up, it is better stick to other lens like the VM 15/4.5. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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Variegator
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Variegator wrote:
Some examples. Not the best of photos concerning composition but I chose them for illustration purposes. All colour photos with a full frame Canon 6D and the B/W with an IR-converted 5D. No photo war cropped, resized or any geometric correction applied. I only did some basic Lightroom stuff (added +30 clarity, some contrast and exposure corrections).
Let's start with two straight indoor shots.
Now an architecture photo with the lens shifted - you can notice the increased vignetting.
Flare is controlled very nicely as you can see here.
Now one where you can see the moustache distortion I mentioned. I can't remember if I shifted the lens in this instance.
A close-up shot with a twin macro flash mounted
IR landscape
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tomasg
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Lovely pictures, that makes me take a deeper look at the lens and maybe consider to get one. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
It looks okay, quite nice distortion correction, but the edges are not very sharp and there is quite a lot of CA in the outer parts too. Of course, this is to be expected with most ultrawides. I suppose the attraction (apart from the macro feature) is the lack of competition in the sub-18mm range on APS-C. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16658 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
It looks okay, quite nice distortion correction, but the edges are not very sharp and there is quite a lot of CA in the outer parts too. Of course, this is to be expected with most ultrawides. I suppose the attraction (apart from the macro feature) is the lack of competition in the sub-18mm range on APS-C. |
It is the lack of very close focusing actually _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Nordentro wrote:
The mouse is great! Look like a giant _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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