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Braddanman
Joined: 13 Aug 2012 Posts: 94 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:20 am Post subject: Miranda Lens Sales Brochure (1971?) |
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Braddanman wrote:
For those collectors out there or those that are just interested.
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Cool !
The "native" lens lineup seems to be exactly what I predicted.
The Tokina 200mm looks like it was indeed made with a fixed Sensorex mount, I will have to look for one.
I thought these other non-Kowa lenses were supplied as T4's only.
The last "Complete Miranda System" is also very interesting.
The lenses in the back are all Soligor T4 Autos and T-mount presets.
Among other things they seem to have laid out a bunch of actual T4 mounts, on the left, and T-mounts on the right.
Since these are, naturally, for other camera makes (a Miranda would only require a Miranda mount I suppose), we can take this as a family photo of the whole Soligor product line of the day.
Some of the presets there look like the "chrome ears" (Sun?) series, though a few aren't.
The big ones in the back are the Kawanon 600 and 800mm _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 750 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
Interesting to see and interesting to see how memory doesn't hold up very well. I recall Miranda ads that had very Tokina looking teles and this add bears that out at least at 200mm. My error was making the assumption that the whole Miranda line at one time may have come from Tokina!
As a frequent lurker on ebay I see many Soligors with Miranda mounts that appear to be Miranda lenses without the Miranda name.
An interesting feature of some, if not all Miranda lenses is that the focus scale is engraved in inches at distances less than about 3 feet. Very comprehensive and a characteristic I've noticed on some Soligor presets. Perhaps they came from the Miranda lens assembly facility that has been alluded to. That may also explain the "M" serial Soligors.
I have a Soligor 28mm/2.8 that resembles the 28 illustrated in this brochure. It bears a 966xxx serial and has a simplified distance scale and Canon FL mount. I have previously attributed this lens to Kino Precision but may have to eat my words! _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Short fat one with the huge tripod mount in the back right is the Tokina-made (I believe) 500/8 reflex in T-mount.
Behind it is the 450/8 "chrome ears", which is horrible. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 750 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
I had not noticed the 500 reflex lens in the group photo! I had read(memory again!) Yashica was the supposed producer of this lens, most commonly seen as Spiratone and Lentar. I just took delivery of one of these branded Samigon. Awaiting EOS T-mount adapter. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I believe Yashica carried it in their catalog at one time, like several other third party lenses; I have seen several of the usual suspects in their lineups from several periods.
OTOH, it may have been made by Yashica, who knows for sure. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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themoleman342
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2190 Location: East Coast (CT), U.S.A.
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:34 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
Great info! The macron has 4 elements in 6 groups, eh? |
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 750 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
One of the Miranda lenses bearing only the Soligor name. It's the curious looking
35mm that's as long as a 105!
Click here to see on Ebay _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
themoleman342 wrote: |
Great info! The macron has 4 elements in 6 groups, eh? |
And don't forget the company motto:
Miranda makes sense...............
I guess they didn't actually expect anyone to read the fine print.
OH |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Miranda are perhaps the most confusing manufacturer to work out, they seem to have sold a load of different lenses at different times, from different makers.
There's a Tokina looking 3.5/200 Miranda that's not shown in this catalogue. There's also a 2.8/28 that is smaller than the one in this catalogue an I also think is made by Tokina. There are two versions of the 2.8/35 too, one is much bigger than the other. Also, there is a 2.8/50 that isn't in this catalogue. The quality of Miranda lenses varies from very good (1.4/50) to mediocre (2.8/105), I only kept the 1.4/50 and the Sensorex body. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
There certainly is a Tokina made 200/3.5 in this brochure, two in fact.
The one featured on the cover is a Tokina.
Its sitting among a bunch of lenses from a different maker, apparently Kowa, so its the odd one out.
The same lens was sold in T4 mount as a Soligor and Vivitar.
There is another, different 200/3.5 also a Tokina, and a T4, in the last group photo.
There were several versions of Tokina made 200/3.5 auto lenses, at least three of which took the T4 mounts, and of course others later.
I have these two versions of the Soligor-branded Tokinas in T4. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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lenny
Joined: 23 Feb 2013 Posts: 47 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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lenny wrote:
CasualCollector's link doesn't work for me.
I think this may be what you were linking to:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/35MM-35-2-8-SOLIGOR-FOR-MIRANDA-118349-/141006009277?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d49cf3bd
I have the small, Miranda-branded 35 2.8, which looks like the same vintage, only really differing in size. |
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 750 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:27 am Post subject: |
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casualcollector wrote:
Link didn't work for me, either... I'll check my work next time! _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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fermy
Joined: 17 Feb 2012 Posts: 1974
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:02 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
Hmm, very conservative and budget oriented lineup, not a single ambitious lens. Well, maybe 1:1 52mm macron and 8 element 50mm 1.4 stand out a bit from this otherwise quite boring lineup.
They weren't good with numbers either. Closest focus of 2.50 cm and total length of 158cm do make sense for a 200mm lens Maybe these were ambitious lenses after all.
Hmm the more I read this brochure, the funnier it becomes:
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Subjects as small as 2.5x4cm can be reproduced in actual size, as well as landscapes in a long distance. |
One hell of a lens if you ask me.
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Auto Miranda lenses are designed by a computor to meet the requirements in today's optical theories. |
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This lens, considering it's focal length, features a closest focus of 3 meters. |
Boy, this is a textbook collection of grammatical, stylistic and logical errors. Didn't they have editors? _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/96060788@N06/ |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Miranda made nice cameras but the lenses just seem to be basic offerings bought in from various makers, mostly Tokina and Sun I think, certainly most of the Mirandas I've had were identical to chrome ears Soligors that were attributed to Tokina and Sun.
I think, for most of the Miranda offerings, they just rebadged whatever Soligor was selling at the time, they were both owned by Allied Impex after all. I bet if you had all the Miranda catalogues, you'd see different lens line-ups almost every year. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
There certainly is a Tokina made 200/3.5 in this brochure, two in fact.
The one featured on the cover is a Tokina.
Its sitting among a bunch of lenses from a different maker, apparently Kowa, so its the odd one out.
The same lens was sold in T4 mount as a Soligor and Vivitar.
There is another, different 200/3.5 also a Tokina, and a T4, in the last group photo.
There were several versions of Tokina made 200/3.5 auto lenses, at least three of which took the T4 mounts, and of course others later.
I have these two versions of the Soligor-branded Tokinas in T4. |
Hi Luis
The Miranda 3.5/200 I had isn't like the one shown in the brochure, it was the same as the common Soligor 3.5/200:
The Miranda 3.5/200 in the cataloue is this one, the T4 Tokina:
_________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:49 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Did anyone make a copy of this lens brochure.?
If so I'd love to have one. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 2536
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:05 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
There is a site for Miranda but it is very slow in loading and most of the time images don't load, like it is 1998 and you're using a 14.400 baud modem.
http://www.mirandacamera.com _________________ pentaxian |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:05 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
D1N0 wrote: |
There is a site for Miranda but it is very slow in loading and most of the time images don't load, like it is 1998 and you're using a 14.400 baud modem.
http://www.mirandacamera.com |
Thanks. I've used that site and it is a great resource, but it does load slow. Reminds me of the AOL days. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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