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Mamiya-Sekor Z Macro f4.5 140mm M/L-A
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:42 am    Post subject: Mamiya-Sekor Z Macro f4.5 140mm M/L-A Reply with quote

Mamiya-Sekor Z Macro f4.5 140mm M/L-A



This beast has an MSRP of $1900 and still fetches $300 or more on ebay, dependent on condition.

The last of the three versions oi the Mamiya 140mm macro, a very highly regarded lens, not just for macro work but for portraits, landscape, just about any use.

I bought this a while back incredibly cheap because the shutter had issues and there were some spots of 'fungus'. Well, I can't find this 'fungus' all I found was a bit of dust and so after a quick clean, the glass is perfect, pristine in fact.

Like all Mamiya RB/RZ lenses it's huge and very heavy - this one weighs 930 g. So I decided to take the optical blocks out of it and remount them.

I hoped that it would use standard sized threads like older Mamiya and Bronica MF lenses do, so it would be a simple task to screw the blocks into a Schneider barrel - Schneider barrels for enlarging, large format and process lenses come in the standard 0, 1, 2, 3 sizes that Compur and Copal shutters use, but sadly, this Mamiya doesn't, maybe the fact it uses a Seiko shutter should have been a clue. The blocks are slightly too big to fit a #1 barrel I have and are smaller than a #3 (#2 is virtually never seen in modern equipment).

As this lens has a floating element to ensure edge sharpness for flat field work, the rear block is in two parts, one stays stationary, the other moves. Obviously, when I have remounted it, it will no longer have a floating element.

But not to be deterred, I dug a beautiful barrel out of my parts box that used to hold a Wray Lustrar LF lens which has a 14 bladed iris that opens large enough to accommodate the Mamiya optical blocks.

BTW, you really don't want to know what I had to do to get the blocks out of the Mamiya barrel, it involved hacksaws, hammers, pry bars, monkey wrenches, a large vice and lots of swearing.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ian.

I imagine the efforts, sweat and tears. Wink
Am I wrong saying it's equivalent to a 90mm lens in 135 format ?

Did you manage to take some shots with your Mamiya beast ?


PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonjour mon ami!

It remains a 140mm lens on 35mm/FF format, just the outer portion of the image circle will not be used.

I haven't taken any pictures with it yet, the size and weight made it very very difficult to mount, I will take pictures with it as soon as the remounting job is done, which shouldn't be long.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Bonjour mon ami!

It remains a 140mm lens on 35mm/FF format, just the outer portion of the image circle will not be used.

I haven't taken any pictures with it yet, the size and weight made it very very difficult to mount, I will take pictures with it as soon as the remounting job is done, which shouldn't be long.


I understand : it remains a 140mm lens, and could we say it has a "crop factor" of 1.5 on 35mm/FF ?

Can't wait to see your sample pics.
You have all my support for remounting. Like 1 small


PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merci beaucoup!

The lens was originally for a 6x7cm frame, which by my maths is a 92.2mm image circle.

If memory serves me correctly, FF has a 43.2mm image circle so I guess the crop factor is 92.2/43.2 = 2.13

I have already pretty much finished fitted the lens blocks into the barrel with aperture, now I just have to fit a helicoid and get the distance from sensor right.

Photos of the remounting to follow this evening.


PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like 1 small
Bon courage ! Smile


PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Mamiya-Sekor Z Macro f4.5 140mm M/L-A Reply with quote

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
BTW, you really don't want to know what I had to do to get the blocks out of the Mamiya barrel, it involved hacksaws, hammers, pry bars, monkey wrenches, a large vice and lots of swearing.

Laugh 1
I know it Ian. I had adapted (almost)2 Mamiya RB lenses, a 65mm to a medium format TS bellows unit and an 150mm SF to the Sony E mount.
I had to do the same while extracting the optical blocks from the Mamiya RB 150mm SF lens. The rear block was, in my case, very difficult to extract. The odd thing was that in the end only the rear block could be directly screwed in a Copal/Compur#1 shutter. The front one had a different screw. I had to lathe make some adapter rings to mount the lens in a Chinese diaphragm instead of using an old Compur#1 diaphragm, as I initially intended. But I ended up scratching the rear block and I postponed the project. Fortunately the 150mm SF lens is quite cheap now, under 100£, and one day I might replace the rear block and finish the job.
The 65mm was easier to adapt.

I know how difficult a job this is, Ian and I am curious to see your remounting finalized.
Success!


PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure my job will be a lot less sophisticated than what you did Dan, but as long as it works...

Here's the parts before I started putting them together.





PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like puzzles... Happy Dog