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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2971 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:07 pm Post subject: Treasure hunting. |
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jamaeolus wrote:
I like to scan the webs for hidden treasure and once in a while come across things I can't pass up.
My most recent score is a Topcon RE camera with the 58mm 1.4 lens. 189 plus 20 postage. It also comes with the 58mm 3.5 macro that I see advertised for 350 and up but have never seen a sale. I scanned sold listing but none there. What is a good estimate of current retail value. Are the ridiculous askings a reflection of the lens IQ? or just collector demand? Anybody got samples taken with that lens? Feel free to post your experiences on this thread re searching for treasures, techniques used to find things. I find this among the most fun of my camera associated tasks (likely second only to actually TAKING photos). _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16663 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Congrats! But if you don't even bother to use search here, why should I help? _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2971 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:20 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Can you help with search? Every time I try (on MFL) it I get 404's. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I gave up and do a general seach on Google but you get an awful lot of uninformed dreck. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:29 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Ignore Klaus and his notorious shitty attitude.
The Topcon RE lenses are perhaps the very finest to have come out of Japan in the 60s and 70s, both optically and in build quality. IMHO, they are as good as what the West Germans were producing at the same time.
This is a large part of why they are expensive, the rest of it is simply that they were a premium level product and weren't produced in huge numbers so they are not available in any quantity on the secondhand market today.
The 1.4/58 is an amazing lens, I had one on load for a while, adored it. Hard to find one for sale and when you do, they are $$$$. I do own the 1.8/58 though, which I also adore.
Never used the macro, as you say, it's not at all common to see for sale. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:23 am Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Klaus _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2971 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:42 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
thanks for the note re Klaus (hmmm). I have several Topcon RE lenses 35mm, 100mm 2.8, 135mm and 200mm so I am aware of the IQ and overall quality. Was just curious about experience with the Macro. It was a lucky find the lot was oddly listed and the macro was just listed as 58mm macro in the details thought the photo was quite clear. I am really curious but I have to wait for it to come in the post, also my a7ii is off for repairs. Had an SD card come apart inside and bend a spring or something. They wouldn't click in the slot. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:28 am Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Relax,just a bit of fun.I apologise. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2971 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:07 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
kryss wrote: |
Relax,just a bit of fun.I apologise. |
heh, no worries. I am a long time follower of this forum and generally trust the regulars to provide good advice, some amazing photos, and of course some good natured kidding. I am serious about the search function though. It worked for awhile when I first signed up several years ago, but not for a long time.
Re Klaus, I thought at first he meant search for info but later figured he might mean search for treasure. As if. First members are going to know the value of their gear, second I would feel bad taking advantage of a fellow member. There really aren't many photos taken with the 58mm 3.5 macro on the net. User xeoc has a nice series on Flickr and I finally found part of the series Klaus was on about. Remarkable. None of that showed up in "images" on google, and when I opened that thread the first time the photos were gone so I thought the thread pre-dated the server crash. Excuses excuses, Anyways it's late and I am off to bed. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16663 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:30 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
jamaeolus wrote: |
Can you help with search? Every time I try (on MFL) it I get 404's. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I gave up and do a general seach on Google but you get an awful lot of uninformed dreck. |
I just plugged in "Topcor macro" and got one site of links including mine, wheer I present my experience with my lens incl. lot sof pictures...
Not sure what went wrong...I get 404 often, but depending on what I search for, when I change the subject, I get useful results...
Btw. here is an album full of (my) images taken with it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157634493667370
I have lots of lenses tested and used, many of those results are listed on my flickr page _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:40 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Not sure what went wrong...I get 404 often, but depending on what I search for, when I change the subject, I get useful results... |
That's exactly my experience as well. However, there would be certainly room for improvement. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16663 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:48 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
tb_a wrote: |
kds315* wrote: |
Not sure what went wrong...I get 404 often, but depending on what I search for, when I change the subject, I get useful results... |
That's exactly my experience as well. However, there would be certainly room for improvement. |
Certainly, but in the hands of the site admin Attilla, not the mod's _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 11054 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Some broken stuff on the board, this used-to-be-useful search also fails now -- Attila's fs.php script: http://forum.mflenses.com/fs.php?sw=Spiratone
Google searches do not include all the sub-forums, only those it is supposed to see. For example, Photographer's Cafe is hidden from Google.
Board software searches require setting up database indices for those searches -- the board is massive; building indices for all the searches we'd like is impractical, would take days, maybe weeks, then, the board response could slow way down whenever somebody does certain searches. Of course all this is improved in later versions of the software. MFlenses has a lot of custom code -- a lot of work to upgrade all that, plus nobody has time, especially while in major life transitions.` _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2971 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
jamaeolus wrote: |
Can you help with search? Every time I try (on MFL) it I get 404's. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I gave up and do a general seach on Google but you get an awful lot of uninformed dreck. |
I just plugged in "Topcor macro" and got one site of links including mine, wheer I present my experience with my lens incl. lot sof pictures...
Not sure what went wrong...I get 404 often, but depending on what I search for, when I change the subject, I get useful results...
Btw. here is an album full of (my) images taken with it: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157634493667370
I have lots of lenses tested and used, many of those results are listed on my flickr page |
Thanks for that. Gorgeous imagery (as usual for your stuff) When I first encountered failures I kept trying terms with less and less info still 404's. Yesterday I must have asked it for too specific of thing, because when I duplicate your term I actually get results (Yay!) Your flickr page did not show up on my google search images. (at least I don't think so) I assume (perhaps wrongly) that google will prioritize Topcon 58mm 3.5 macro images above Topcon 58mm 1.4 so I stop opening images when I get one that doesn't match my search term. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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John Shriver
Joined: 24 Dec 2009 Posts: 199
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:25 am Post subject: |
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John Shriver wrote:
Link to review of all three Macro-Topcor lenses by "Camera 35" magazine were just posted here: https://www.photo.net/discuss/threads/will-the-real-exakta-please-step-forward.5500483/
They are all quite fine lenses. Was always happy with the results on film with my Super D.
I got an RMS thread to K-mount adapter so I can use the 30mm on my Pentax K-1. |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16663 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:20 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Cannot more than agree, as I have all three! (a rhyme...) _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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