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alex ph
Joined: 16 Mar 2013 Posts: 1674
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:04 pm Post subject: The 1950s origins of MFLenses forum |
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alex ph wrote:
Many of you should already know that amazing 2007 article by Herbert Keppler who tells a story of how lens comparison fever started in the 1950s. It was launched by journalists and Life magazine first, making tests between Leica/Zeiss and Nikor, then contaminated amateur photographers assisted by pro photo stores, finally reached the Popular Photography pages. Shooting brick walls and testing tables was all invented at that time. Aren't we all unconsciouss successors of a photojournalist David Douglas who introduced in all that fuss? |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5043 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
interesting link
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
The article about Duncan and his Nikkors, by Bruce Downes, is in the March 1951 copy of Popular Photography in Google Books.
There is just a short bit, a couple of paragraphs, about the Nikkors.
https://books.google.com/books id=lF0zAQAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:09 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
I don´t shot brick walls.
At work I do a lot of lens testing with an Imatest setup. But for my hobby photography I do no real testing. I make some fes images, and see wheter it is OK or too bad for taking a lens / experimental lens outdoors for some real images or a photosession.
Don´t care about MTF values, coma, distortion,.. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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scsambrook
Joined: 29 Mar 2009 Posts: 2167 Location: Glasgow Scotland
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
That's iindeed an interesting article by by Keppler, although it only hints at the complexity of how Nikkor lenses were brought into being and acquired their early reputation. For those interested in learning more, it's worth looking for a copy of The Nikon Camera in America, 1946-1953 by Michael Wescott Loder.
I'm not sure that compartive testing of lenses only began in the photographic press of the 1950s. Photographers were maing preferences for one lens over others back into the late 19th century -although not by photographing brick walls, newspapers or bar charts. They just photographed the 'real world' subjects that interested them photographically. In that sense, MFL members are the "unconscious successors" of Victorian era camera users, not just the relative youngsters from the 1950s _________________ Stephen
Equipment: Pentax DSLR for casual shooting, Lumix G1 and Fuji XE-1 for playing with old lenses, and Leica M8 because I still like the optical rangefinder system. |
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Ray Parkhurst
Joined: 04 Jul 2011 Posts: 504 Location: Santa Clara, CA, USA
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Ray Parkhurst wrote:
I do many lens tests and comparisons each month, but I don't use any "standard" method. I just shoot coins, and compare the quality of the images. There are actually quite a few things you can see in real-world images that the standard lens test methods don't capture. Shooting shiny textured metal brings out the worst (and sometimes best) in a lens. _________________ ...See my Numismatic Photography website at: http://www.macrocoins.com
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...Go-To studio lenses: Nikon 95mm and 105mm Printing-Nikkors; Schneider 85mm Macro-Varon; Nikon 5x, 10x, and 20x Measuring Microscope Objectives; Mitutoyo BD Plan Apo 50x Microscope Objective
...My Go-To Walkaround Lenses: Laowa 60mm Super Macro; Nikon 28-105D (in manual mode for macro); |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16657 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Ray Parkhurst wrote: |
I do many lens tests and comparisons each month, but I don't use any "standard" method. I just shoot coins, and compare the quality of the images. There are actually quite a few things you can see in real-world images that the standard lens test methods don't capture. Shooting shiny textured metal brings out the worst (and sometimes best) in a lens. |
Don't "place your light under a chair" as we say here Ray, you do use quite sophisticated measurements and those have helped even me (:LOL:) quite a bit _________________ Klaus - Admin
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Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
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Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
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NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
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COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
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