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papasito
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:10 pm Post subject: WHICH SONY |
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papasito wrote:
Which Sony is the best to buy :
1- A6000
2- Nex 7.
They seem to be very similar, but they are different, or not? |
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leemik
Joined: 21 Feb 2011 Posts: 107 Location: Quincy, MA
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:02 am Post subject: |
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leemik wrote:
A6000 |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:50 am Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Definitely a6000. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 294 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:54 am Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
sony a6000 is 3/4 years newer than nex 7.
both are APSC sensor but a6000 has a far more faster autofocus , better buffer for "rafale" shoot and other stuff like eye af ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4VB-LJSejM ) |
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1662
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Thank you, very much to all of you.
I shall use it only with manual focus lenses.
Sony Nex 7 u$s 750
Sony a6000 u$s 1000
Worth the difference in money? |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Most definitely,nothing else comes close. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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dnas
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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dnas wrote:
Plus the NEX 7 doesn't have Playmemories Apps, which is useful, because you can tweak the Japanese domestic model, and add English menu. |
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newst
Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 617 Location: Troy, MI USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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newst wrote:
The A6000 is quite a bit better than the NEX-7 in many ways, most of which will not apply if you truly intend to shoot with only manual lenses. To me, if using only manual lenses, the only significant advantage of the A6000 over the NEX-7 is the A6000s increased ISO capability. You need to decide if that feature is worth the extra money. On the other hand I have heard many NEX-7 owners praise that camera's controls over those of the A6000. Never having had an NEX-7 I can't speak to that issue, but you might research it for yourself.
Compare the two yourself here: http://cameradecision.com/multi-compare/Sony-Alpha-a6000-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-6-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-7 _________________ Steve
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1662
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
newst wrote: |
The A6000 is quite a bit better than the NEX-7 in many ways, most of which will not apply if you truly intend to shoot with only manual lenses. To me, if using only manual lenses, the only significant advantage of the A6000 over the NEX-7 is the A6000s increased ISO capability. You need to decide if that feature is worth the extra money. On the other hand I have heard many NEX-7 owners praise that camera's controls over those of the A6000. Never having had an NEX-7 I can't speak to that issue, but you might research it for yourself.
Compare the two yourself here: http://cameradecision.com/multi-compare/Sony-Alpha-a6000-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-6-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-7 |
Thank you, Steve.
I see. My option seems to be the cheaper nex 7.
It's older, so the shutter life is reduced in front of the a6000 one.
My nex 5n is shutter off ( fix it's not cheap). |
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newst
Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 617 Location: Troy, MI USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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newst wrote:
papasito wrote: |
newst wrote: |
The A6000 is quite a bit better than the NEX-7 in many ways, most of which will not apply if you truly intend to shoot with only manual lenses. To me, if using only manual lenses, the only significant advantage of the A6000 over the NEX-7 is the A6000s increased ISO capability. You need to decide if that feature is worth the extra money. On the other hand I have heard many NEX-7 owners praise that camera's controls over those of the A6000. Never having had an NEX-7 I can't speak to that issue, but you might research it for yourself.
Compare the two yourself here: http://cameradecision.com/multi-compare/Sony-Alpha-a6000-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-6-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-7 |
Thank you, Steve.
I see. My option seems to be the cheaper nex 7.
It's older, so the shutter life is reduced in front of the a6000 one.
My nex 5n is shutter off ( fix it's not cheap). |
That would depend on how much the previous owner of the NEX-7 used it. _________________ Steve
Just an armadillo on the shoulder of the information superhighway. |
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supersignet
Joined: 27 Jun 2010 Posts: 20
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:37 am Post subject: |
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supersignet wrote:
I just bought the a6000 and the sigma 30 1.4 and the Sony Fe 50 1.8. I also have an older nex-5 and the a7k. the a6000 is really a great camera. I got it for my wife and she really loves it. The controls are customizable so you can set it up the way you want. I don't see much advantage in the controls in the nex-7. in comparison to my A7 the a6000 is a little smaller and lighter. Image quality is almost identical and the autofocus on the a6000 is miles ahead of the A7. the only issue I've had so far is the max shutter speed is only 1/4000th of a second which really isn't a big deal. |
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thebbm
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 294 Location: France montpellier
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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thebbm wrote:
supersignet wrote: |
I just bought the a6000 and the sigma 30 1.4 and the Sony Fe 50 1.8. I also have an older nex-5 and the a7k. the a6000 is really a great camera. I got it for my wife and she really loves it. The controls are customizable so you can set it up the way you want. I don't see much advantage in the controls in the nex-7. in comparison to my A7 the a6000 is a little smaller and lighter. Image quality is almost identical and the autofocus on the a6000 is miles ahead of the A7. the only issue I've had so far is the max shutter speed is only 1/4000th of a second which really isn't a big deal. |
i have the nex 6 + sigma 30 1.4 , the autofocus is slow and hunt a lot in dark situation (like few seconds). is the autofocus with this lens far faster with a6000 than nex 5n ?
Thanks |
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supersignet
Joined: 27 Jun 2010 Posts: 20
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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supersignet wrote:
with my A7 the autofocus tends to hunt with the FE 50 1.8 and with the sigma 30 1.4. On the a6000 there is no hunting with either lens, however the sigma is noticeably quicker. It does an excellent job with continuous tracking as well. |
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devinw
Joined: 19 Aug 2016 Posts: 207 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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devinw wrote:
I'm not sure where you're getting your pricing. The a6000 is only about $550. You can get an a6300 for $850. _________________
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E-Mount: Zeiss/Sony 16-70 f/4, Samyang 12mm f/2
Rokkor: MD PG 50mm f1.4, MD 100mm Macro f3.5, MD 135mm f2.8, MD Zoom 35-70mm f3.5, MD Zoom 75-150 f4
Canon FD: nFD 50mm f1.4, Tokina AT-X 100-300mm f4
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1662
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
devinw wrote: |
I'm not sure where you're getting your pricing. The a6000 is only about $550. You can get an a6300 for $850. |
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papasito
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
newst wrote: |
papasito wrote: |
newst wrote: |
The A6000 is quite a bit better than the NEX-7 in many ways, most of which will not apply if you truly intend to shoot with only manual lenses. To me, if using only manual lenses, the only significant advantage of the A6000 over the NEX-7 is the A6000s increased ISO capability. You need to decide if that feature is worth the extra money. On the other hand I have heard many NEX-7 owners praise that camera's controls over those of the A6000. Never having had an NEX-7 I can't speak to that issue, but you might research it for yourself.
Compare the two yourself here: http://cameradecision.com/multi-compare/Sony-Alpha-a6000-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-6-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-7 |
Thank you, Steve.
I see. My option seems to be the cheaper nex 7.
It's older, so the shutter life is reduced in front of the a6000 one.
My nex 5n is shutter off ( fix it's not cheap). |
That would depend on how much the previous owner of the NEX-7 used it. |
Yes. You are right, of course.
And tell me, please. Is there any way to know how much time (aprox) has the shutter and/or the auto focus motor to keep
running?
Any control like the Counter miles in the cars? |
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newst
Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 617 Location: Troy, MI USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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newst wrote:
papasito wrote: |
newst wrote: |
papasito wrote: |
newst wrote: |
The A6000 is quite a bit better than the NEX-7 in many ways, most of which will not apply if you truly intend to shoot with only manual lenses. To me, if using only manual lenses, the only significant advantage of the A6000 over the NEX-7 is the A6000s increased ISO capability. You need to decide if that feature is worth the extra money. On the other hand I have heard many NEX-7 owners praise that camera's controls over those of the A6000. Never having had an NEX-7 I can't speak to that issue, but you might research it for yourself.
Compare the two yourself here: http://cameradecision.com/multi-compare/Sony-Alpha-a6000-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-6-vs-Sony-Alpha-NEX-7 |
Thank you, Steve.
I see. My option seems to be the cheaper nex 7.
It's older, so the shutter life is reduced in front of the a6000 one.
My nex 5n is shutter off ( fix it's not cheap). |
That would depend on how much the previous owner of the NEX-7 used it. |
Yes. You are right, of course.
And tell me, please. Is there any way to know how much time (aprox) has the shutter and/or the auto focus motor to keep
running?
Any control like the Counter miles in the cars? |
I truly doubt it. Digital cameras aren't really designed for years of use like the great old film cameras were. The turn-around cycle of digital bodies is just too short. I doubt that anyone has put any analysis into how long the cameras will last.
I have read that even though Sony has advertised some extremely large number of shutter operations for their A7RII they do not warranty the shutter for any number of cycles. That's just the state of the industry these days. _________________ Steve
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papasito
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Ohhhh.....bad news.
Thanks Steve. |
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leemik
Joined: 21 Feb 2011 Posts: 107 Location: Quincy, MA
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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leemik wrote:
I have a NEX-7 .. shutter had to be repaired once due to a defect.. the camera was like 1 week out of warranty too and they wouldn't give it to me..
I have two NEX-5's, one NEX-3 and an A7R but there's something about the sensor in the NEX-7 that I dislike the most out of all the NEX cameras I currently own. I don't know if it's the pixel density or a thicker sensor stack? but wide angle rangefinder lenses reputed to smear and have a magenta cast ALWAYS do it on my NEX-7.. All the other Sony cameras I own seem to behave better in this regard. Even my Minolta 40/2 CLE which is reputed to magenta cast sometimes is completely unusable on the NEX-7 because eveything is shaded magenta.. but on all my other Sony e-mount cameras it's great.. So I'm just not a big fan of that sensor.
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simbon4o
Joined: 19 Dec 2011 Posts: 390 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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simbon4o wrote:
For manual focus - NEX6 for latest AF and sensor - A6000. NEX7 is too old and if you use the AF it is useless compared to the later NEX6. The A6000 viewfinder is worse than those of the previous models, still usable but worse. _________________ 10-300мм 4.0 - 1.2 - 4.5 NIKON&Sony bodies / Sony 10-18, Pentax 28 2.8 II, CZJ 35 2.4, Nikkor DX 35 1.8, Samyang 35 1.4, KMZ 50 1.7, FDn 50 1.2 L, Nikkor 55 2.8, Rokkor 58 1.2, Soligor 85 1.8 Preset, Samyang 85 1.4, Canon FDn 85 1.2 L, Tokina AT-X 90 2.5, Canon FDn 135mm 2.0, Nikkor 180 2.8 ED, Tair 300 4.5
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1662
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Thank you, very much guys.
I really think that for my use (hobbist one and manual focus only and exclusively), my fixed 5N is not so bad.
I like the finder in the others three, the Nex 6, 7 and A6000. But I can live without it.
The money perhaps will be better used to buy another lenses (an old 28/2,8 Leica R)
My lenses today are
Leica R
90/2 not AA
180/3,4 APO
Canon R
35/2,5 - very good old lens
Minolta SR
MC 50/3,5 macro
I can't beleave that, but the rest was sold. |
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Layer-cake
Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 560 Location: Cape Town
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Layer-cake wrote:
The A6000 definitely, the ISO capabilities are better than the Nex 6 or 7. Even though the viewfinder has a lower resolution because of the higher refresh rate it works better than the Nex 6 viewfinder IMO.
If you go for a model that doesn't have the viewfinder make sure you get one with the additional dial controls as it makes things alot easier, that being said, there is quite a big copy variation on the sensor, I got lucky with mine but alot of them have severe banding across the sensor, so if you do get one, buy it brand new so you can return it if it has this issue. It actually seems to affect quite a few different models.
https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&client=firefox-b&q=sony+a6000+banding+across+sensor&oq=sony+a6000+banding+across+sensor&gs_l=serp.3...29184.30709.0.30970.7.7.0.0.0.0.392.1860.2-3j3.6.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..6.0.0.doQwDQGzEBc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.148073327,d.ZGg&biw=1760&bih=845&ech=1&psi=iWyyWI3INM2ogAbMl46wCA.1488088203642.3&ei=iWyyWI3INM2ogAbMl46wCA&emsg=NCSR&noj=1&gfe_rd=cr |
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Lightshow
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Stick with the 5N and save up for an A7 series, I love my NEX-7 but I much prefer the FF sensor of my A7r. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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