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revinhood
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 53 Location: España
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: Sigma mini wide II 24mm |
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revinhood wrote:
find little information on this lens
is really good.?
best of these:
chinon 28mm
sigma mini wide 28mm
pentax M 28mm
vivitar 28mm
thanks for your help.
I have little knowledge of manual lenses |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
None of them really good , they are usable. _________________ -------------------------------
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revinhood
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 53 Location: España
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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revinhood wrote:
I can spend about 70 € for the wide lens.
which could be? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Don't know they are more less similar. _________________ -------------------------------
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revinhood
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 53 Location: España
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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revinhood wrote:
and one that is not in the list above |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Do you have Pentax camera ? In this case you choice is limited to M42 and Pentax K.
Tamron 24mm, 28mm f2.5 can be a good choice in 24, 28mm range.
But not better significantly than above lenses.
Below 100 GBP hard to find excellent wide angle lenses in M42 or Pentax K mount. _________________ -------------------------------
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revinhood
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 53 Location: España
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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revinhood wrote:
I will see that I find on eBay.
I'm looking for a 200mm and 28mm
thank you very much. |
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
On your list, a Pentax or Takumar would be the most reliably good.
Vivitars will depend on the manufacturer / actual model, but do usually offer close focus wich can be useful. Soligor at certain points may have the same lens as Vivitar.
I'm waiting in for the delivery of a *Hanimex* 28, which will let me compare a Pentax A 2.8, a Viv TX 2.5, and the *hanimex*.
Between the Pentax and VivTX, the Pentax is the better lens as far as resolution and so on goes, but the Viv is fun to use and gives a certain '70's look I like.
Based on repuation, the OTHER Viv 2.5 (has a trumpet flare to the barrel for the front element) and some of the 2.8's are good also.
* now that I think about it, I seem to remember the 28 that's coming 'with' the camera is a Hanimex not Chinon. Oh well, I'll see what it is when I open the box. * _________________ -Jussi
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Sigma mini wide II 24mm |
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montecarlo wrote:
revinhood wrote: |
find little information on this lens
is really good.?
best of these:
chinon 28mm
sigma mini wide 28mm
pentax M 28mm
vivitar 28mm
thanks for your help.
I have little knowledge of manual lenses |
See this too : http://www.pbase.com/steephill/28mms
About the Chinon 28mm (K Pentax mount) i've got one: http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/mfl_club_members/cosmin/chinon_28mm_f2_8/ _________________ Canonet QL17 III
Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0,
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4
Pentax MX, ME Super, Chinon CE4/CM4, Petri MC 28mm f:2, smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Soligor T 135mm f:2.8
Minolta X500, Tokina 28/2.8, Rokkor 50/1.7, 80-205/4.5
Nikon D90, Nikkor 35/2.0, Nikkor 50/1.8, Sigma 24/2.8, Nikkor 18-105 VR |
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revinhood
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 53 Location: España
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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revinhood wrote:
I have also heard good things about the mir 20 and mir 24n |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I wasn't like much MIR 20, MIR 24 is a fine lens. _________________ -------------------------------
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yalcinaydin
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 825 Location: Izmir, Turkey
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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yalcinaydin wrote:
And what about a Vivitar (Kiron) 28/2. Does it worth the 150$ price tag, in shooting small venues my Canon 50mm f:1.8 is a bit too tele so I need something wider so it sounded appropriate, any experience with this Kiron? _________________ My name is "Yalcin", and exactly "Yalçın" and here you can find my MF samples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yalcinaydin/sets/
Right now switching back to AF because of work needs but I still love the MF lenses |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I had 24mm f2 Kiron made Vivitar
In this price range absolutely perfect.
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/japenese/vivitar/vivitar_24mm_f2_kiron/
But so far from a good one, like Olympus OM 24mm f2 or Nikkor 24mm f2.8 _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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revinhood
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 53 Location: España
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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revinhood wrote:
this vivitar is m42 mount?? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Available in Pentax K and in M42 mount too. _________________ -------------------------------
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yalcinaydin
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 825 Location: Izmir, Turkey
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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yalcinaydin wrote:
I wasn't considering buying any additional lenses this month but I will give this one a try as you suggsted this one Attila The image quality also look vey nice, I really need fast glasses cause at ISO1600, I'm using values like 1/4 to get a clear performance shot and even at these calues sometimes the shot still blury. I need also something like a 85mm f:1.4 but not this month _________________ My name is "Yalcin", and exactly "Yalçın" and here you can find my MF samples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yalcinaydin/sets/
Right now switching back to AF because of work needs but I still love the MF lenses |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Share with us your experience, when you get it! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Rob Leslie
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 1103 Location: UK Swindon
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Rob Leslie wrote:
revinhood wrote: |
I can spend about 70 € for the wide lens.
which could be? |
Your list is 28mm lenses and your post states 24mm?
I have never had a big problem with 28mm lenses.
One of the best for very little money is the Tamron Adaptall 2 f2.4 28mm but the earlier and often cheaper Adaptall 1 f2.8 28mm is also a nice lens Pentax 28mm lenses have always had a good reputation. My fav is my SMC Pentax-A f2.8 28mm. I have never tried the SMC-M. i
I have tried the older M42 Takumar f2.8 and the f3.5 28mm lenses and the f3.5 is the better but there isn't a lot wrong with the f2.8
I don't rate the Vivitar or the older Sigma lenses.
If you are looking for 24mm then the quest becomes harder.
I have tried a lot and have not been too keen on any of them. I could be spoiled by the decent performance of the Pentax 18-55mm kit lens which is pretty good compared to many third party prime lenses. the only one that I have tried that betters it is the Tamron 24mm but IMO not enough to spend the money on it!
I also have an old Sigma 24-70 UC Zoom (AF) which is pretty good at 24mm, better in fact than the two 24mm Sigma primes I have tried.
I'm an old photographer so I remember that it was the late 1970's before decent quality 24mm lenses where produced and of course they were expensive. This means there are not so many good S/H for sale. Short supply = Expensive price. Go even wider say to a 16mm Sigma and the price is silly and it is a rubbish lens.
I doubt all this has helped you. Perhaps half the fum of buying MF lenses is finding the good ones? Best advice is try before you buy.
I am at the moment waiting for my THIRD copy of the Sigma 10-20mm. It has so far taken me two months to try and buy a New Lens! _________________ Pentax K10D & K100D. Many Tamron Adaptall SP lenses, Fujinon f4.5 400mm. A loved Lens Baby 2, Lubitel triplet +++ and many film cameras. Mainly a Digital user inc G5, GR2
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yalcinaydin
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 825 Location: Izmir, Turkey
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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yalcinaydin wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Share with us your experience, when you get it! |
There is also a cheaper and cleaner Minolta MD version of this lens, is using M42 version of this lens instead of Minolta MD version would make a difference? I'm considering the Minolta MD version, any thoughts? _________________ My name is "Yalcin", and exactly "Yalçın" and here you can find my MF samples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yalcinaydin/sets/
Right now switching back to AF because of work needs but I still love the MF lenses |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Do you have Minolta MD adapter already ? That is not so common .. _________________ -------------------------------
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yalcinaydin
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 825 Location: Izmir, Turkey
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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yalcinaydin wrote:
No but I can buy one cause it is still cheaper when combined together (and Minolta version is in a mint condition) and also there are some cheap minolta-rokkor glasses and also other third party glassess with lower price tags. I guess M42 is a bit a mainstream at the moment so the prices are a bit high when compared to other mounts (I can't deny the lens variety of M42 ) _________________ My name is "Yalcin", and exactly "Yalçın" and here you can find my MF samples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yalcinaydin/sets/
Right now switching back to AF because of work needs but I still love the MF lenses |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes Minolta MD is damn cheap , but without adapter unusable. _________________ -------------------------------
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yalcinaydin
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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yalcinaydin wrote:
AF confirmation assist Minolta MD to EOS adapter is 45$, not cheap but it can be considered as an investment for further purchases _________________ My name is "Yalcin", and exactly "Yalçın" and here you can find my MF samples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/yalcinaydin/sets/
Right now switching back to AF because of work needs but I still love the MF lenses |
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Attila
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
45 USD is a cheap price, take it without hesitation. _________________ -------------------------------
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Case from Holland
Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 26 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Sigma mini wide II 24mm |
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Case from Holland wrote:
revinhood wrote: |
find little information on this lens
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A Sigma 24mm mini wide does not exist. (28mm does)
The Sigma 24 mm Superwide II is supposed to be a Leitz design and rather high rated.
See:
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/8917/lensrat1.html |
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