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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:01 pm Post subject: Angenieux 35MM F2.5 Retrofocus Type R1 on NEX 5N |
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calvin83 wrote:
Here are some photos of my first Angenieux lens. They are processed in LR5.2 with necessary adjustment. Unlike my other threads in this section, I will not comment on the performance of this lens now. I would like to hear how you think about it after you check the samples below.
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#6 click to enlarge
#7 click to enlarge
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bernhardas
Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Posts: 1432
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Quite nice for such an old, 1st gen retro lens design lens! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:49 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
@bernhardas
Yes. The flare is pretty obvious in #1 and it affects the contrast on top left corner in #3. The coating of this lens is weak so it is very easy to catch flare. The flare adds more dimension to the scene by giving a large contrast between the top left and the bottom right.
In #7, the only adjustment I did are boost the Charity to 16 and select medium contrast in point curve. This lens has high resolution with medium contrast from F5.6 onward. I found it handles those high contrast scene very well. It has it own color rendering with I cannot found on my other lenses.
@kds315*
I agrees it is very nice for such old lens. This lens receives much better reputation in Asia than rest of the world. It may looks a bad lens at first glance but it will shown its magic if you can understand it character. To be honest, I found it is not easy to focus this lens even look at the magnified view with focus peaking.
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Rick1779
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 1207 Location: Italy
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Rick1779 wrote:
it seems that suffer from direct light/flares (like many others old lenses with single coating or no coating at all), but if you're aware of that the results are great (like the last shot). I like the 3d pop too (people walking in the garden) _________________ TELLTALE
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vlousada
Joined: 11 Dec 2010 Posts: 345 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:23 am Post subject: |
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vlousada wrote:
Colors are great!
Where some other lens may fail, this one seems to reproduce REDs very well _________________ Regards,
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 940 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:01 am Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
Flare is quiet obvious . These situations do not look very demanding though. Is it FF or APS-C ? |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1839 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Great examples, lovely lens!! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
@Rick1779
I will talk about more about the lens flare below. This lens do have great 3D pop.
@vlousada
The REDs are vivid and the white are very "pure" IMHO.
@memetph
My NEX 5N are an APS-C camera. The lens is sharp from corner to corner from F5.6. The conrner will less on a FF camera.
@TrueLoveOne
Certianly!
Here are some of my thoughts on this lens:
Flare is inevitable on this old wide-angle with weak coating and large protruding front elements. A long hood is mandatory for this lens to block any possible stray lights.
Angénieux use some very soft glasses on this lens. Most copies I encountered have LOTS of cleaning mark/scratch on the front and rear elements. The damage will lower the contrast. If the flare is present, the contrast may further reduce to very low.
The DOF of this lens seems narrower than my other 35s. It is not easy to focusing on my NEX 5N even in magnified view with focus peaking. I found the sharpness of this lens is very good from F5.6 onwards. Even at full open, the resolution is not bad but contrast is low. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:20 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I have the 2.8/35 and found it to be a challenge focusing, Focus peaking on the K-01 certainly helps.It has the same issues as yours with the front coating heavy with "cleaning marks"...your images do look sharper than what I have managed to produce. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:39 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
mo wrote: |
I have the 2.8/35 and found it to be a challenge focusing, Focus peaking on the K-01 certainly helps.It has the same issues as yours with the front coating heavy with "cleaning marks"...your images do look sharper than what I have managed to produce. |
Focusing may be more challenging on your 28mm F3.5 Type R11 because it is wider and slower than the 35mm. My copy is in excellent condition with only a very small imperfection in the glass. Your lens should be benefit from a hood to prevent unnecessary flare. If my data is correct, your lens should have filter size of 58.5mm The size is a bit odd but a snap-on hood of 58mm should fits.
For metering with this lens, I will try -0.7EV(on #3) to -1EV in Multi-Pattern metering mode if flare if present. Check if the image of your lens will be more sharp with a faster shutter speed.
This is all I want to say about this lens. Wish all of you will enjoy this thread! _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8979 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:25 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
Hi Calvin,
I apologise I have always tend to read my lens as a 2.8/35 ,thanks I will try out your suggestions. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 940 Location: Poland
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:01 am Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
Sorry , it was in the title : NEX.
My recent experience is that there is more flare with a FF which is logical.
I used to have ( 40 years ago) three Angenieux 3,5 28 ; 1,5 50 and 2,5 135 . Really nice pieces of optic. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I found there is very slight haze on the lens and I send it to CLA. The lens perform even better after the CLA. Here are two photos taken by Sony A7 without a hood(click to enlarge).
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#2
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16664 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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padam
Joined: 09 Oct 2012 Posts: 175 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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padam wrote:
very nice 3D-look, reminds me of the Distagon 35/1.4 ZM |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7584 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Thank all. I think this lens worth some effort to understand it in order to get the best out of it. It will not perform good on most situation but it has good potential on certain kind of scene. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
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https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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