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wolan
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:25 pm Post subject: Your suggestion for a MF lens in the range 85-100mm |
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wolan wrote:
Hi,
I am looking for a MF lens with focal length between 85mm and 100mm and aperture f<2>=5.6 or at least f>=8
Any ideas?
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rybolt
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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rybolt wrote:
depending on what mount you can use I'm a big fan of the 85mm f2.8 Steiheil Culminar. I use one in L39 on my Fuji X cameras as well as the M9. _________________ Fuji X and Sony A cameras with many Fuji, Zeiss, Leica and other adapted lenses |
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wolan
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:06 am Post subject: |
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wolan wrote:
Hi,
anything that can be adapted on the Fuji mount, but preferably L39 and M42 as I can use helicoid adapters.
Thanks. |
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rybolt
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:27 am Post subject: |
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rybolt wrote:
lots of choices for you. As I said, I like the out of focus rendering that the Culminar gives. The 75mm f1.5 Helios gets good reviews, too. Plus all of the Nikon, Canon, Olympus and Minolta options.
I have 12 different adapters for the Fuji camera and probably 8 different lenses in the range that you are asking about. Some are great and some are boring. _________________ Fuji X and Sony A cameras with many Fuji, Zeiss, Leica and other adapted lenses |
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Lightshow
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Quite a few options, X-Fujinar EBC 100/2.8 to keep it in the family.
Leica R or M 90/2 (pre APO Asph is still good and much cheaper)
SMC Pentax K 85/1.8 or either 85 Takumar(1.9 or 1.
Topcor RE 85/1.8
Helios 40 or CZJ 75/1.5
Jupiter 9 _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
My lens list
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Lloydy
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Tamron SP 90 / 2.5 Macro. it takes some beating.
Minolta Rokkor X 100 / 2.5 is very nice.
Minolta Rokkor Macro 100 / 3.5. This is a big heavy lens and has a X2 converter to get 1:1 macro, but it's sharp!
Soligor 105 / 2.8. Cheap and surprisingly good.
That's what I have, and the Tamron, although it has some issues with the blue spot sensor reflection, is certainly my most used lens, followed by the Rokkor X which is plenty sharp and renders beautifully. The Macro Rokkor is by far the best macro lens I have, but it is a big heavy lens.
The Soligor is cheap, tiny and often goes in a pocket when I go for a walk and don't want to carry a bag full of lenses. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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Oldhand
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
As Lloyd has said - don't rule out the 105mm lenses. There are some very good ones around.
Canon FD 100/2.8 and Vivitar 105/2.8 by Tokina (serial 37........) are lenses that I have used. Both are very good
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guardian
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
Tamron SP 90 / 2.5 Macro. it takes some beating.
Minolta Rokkor X 100 / 2.5 is very nice.
Minolta Rokkor Macro 100 / 3.5. This is a big heavy lens and has a X2 converter to get 1:1 macro, but it's sharp!
Soligor 105 / 2.8. Cheap and surprisingly good.
That's what I have, and the Tamron, although it has some issues with the blue spot sensor reflection, is certainly my most used lens, followed by the Rokkor X which is plenty sharp and renders beautifully. The Macro Rokkor is by far the best macro lens I have, but it is a big heavy lens.
The Soligor is cheap, tiny and often goes in a pocket when I go for a walk and don't want to carry a bag full of lenses. |
Lloydy are you making reference to this T4 Soligor:
Click here to see on Ebay
or to this Soligor lens, which might be smaller:
Click here to see on Ebay
or perhaps to another, entirely different, Soligor 105 which is smaller still than either of those? |
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jamaeolus
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Olympus OM 100mm 2.8 or Topcon RE 100mm 2.8 are my current faves in that range for relatively low money. Zeiss Pancolar 85 1.8 or Pentax SMC 85 1.8. if you intend to spend a bit more. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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stevemark
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
I have tested several vintage MF 1.7/85mm, 1.8/85mm and 2/85mm lenses, using the Sony A7/A7II FF camera:
Canon FD 1.8/85mm
Canon new FD 1.8/85mm
Minolta MC-X 1.7/85mm
Minolta MD 1.7/85mm
Minolta MD 2/85mm
Nikkor Ai 1.8/85mm
All the f1.7 and f1.8 lenses had nearly identical center and corner sharpness. The Canons may have a bit less contrast than the Minolta MD 1.7/85mm and 2/85mm. The Minolta MD 2/85 was slightly sharper than the rest, and it had a bit less CAs.
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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wolan
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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wolan wrote:
Hi,
sorry, just noticed that a piece of my post went lost because of the special HTML characters in the text.
The requirements for such a lens are:
- very beautiful to exceptional bokeh
- sharp enough WO
- sharp to very sharp from f5.6 or at least from f8
I already have a few good lenses in that range, I am really looking for something original.
NB: yes, 105mm would also be ok.
Thanks. |
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Lightshow
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Canon 100/2 LTM/R
Rokkor 100/2 _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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newst
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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newst wrote:
As has been stated repeatedly there are many lenses available to meet your requirements.
I like a lot of the lenses already recommended but I advise you to look into the Canon LTM 100mm f3.5. Small, very sharp, excellent rendering and not expensive. I would avoid the earliest, Serenar, version but only because it is considerably heavier than the later Canon version.
I have copies of some of my shots somewhere on the forum but can't find them now. No problem as these are much better than I can do.
http://forum.mflenses.com/a-walk-with-canon-100mm-f-3-5-omd-t66195,highlight,%2Bcanon+%2Bltm+%2B100mm.html _________________ Steve
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DConvert
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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DConvert wrote:
wolan wrote: |
Hi,
sorry, just noticed that a piece of my post went lost because of the special HTML characters in the text.
The requirements for such a lens are:
- very beautiful to exceptional bokeh
- sharp enough WO
- sharp to very sharp from f5.6 or at least from f8
I already have a few good lenses in that range, I am really looking for something original.
NB: yes, 105mm would also be ok.
Thanks. |
Bokeh is rather subjective, but the SP90 Lloydy mentioned fits the bill ideally IMO. |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
guardian wrote: |
Lloydy wrote: |
Tamron SP 90 / 2.5 Macro. it takes some beating.
Minolta Rokkor X 100 / 2.5 is very nice.
Minolta Rokkor Macro 100 / 3.5. This is a big heavy lens and has a X2 converter to get 1:1 macro, but it's sharp!
Soligor 105 / 2.8. Cheap and surprisingly good.
That's what I have, and the Tamron, although it has some issues with the blue spot sensor reflection, is certainly my most used lens, followed by the Rokkor X which is plenty sharp and renders beautifully. The Macro Rokkor is by far the best macro lens I have, but it is a big heavy lens.
The Soligor is cheap, tiny and often goes in a pocket when I go for a walk and don't want to carry a bag full of lenses. |
Lloydy are you making reference to this T4 Soligor:
Click here to see on Ebay
or to this Soligor lens, which might be smaller: or perhaps to another, entirely different, Soligor 105 which is smaller still than either of those?
Click here to see on Ebay
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as always, there are many Soligors to choose from, this is mine with the mysterious 'H4' serial number which to the best of our collective knowledge makes it a Kawanon lens, not the greatest of manufacturers, but this lens isn't bad at all.
The Soligor in the first link is a chrome eared model with a '1' serial number so it's most likely a Tokina, and of the 6 or 7 chrome eared Soligors I have only one is bad - 35 / 3.5 - which is noticeably poorly made, cheap and nasty, and is only useful as a body cap. All the rest are good to quite good and the 135 / 2.8 is exceptionally good. But they are what they are, budget lenses made by an assortment of manufacturers for a retail company; Allied Impex / Soligor. I only paid £1 for that 105 lens, at that price it's got to be good! ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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guardian
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:20 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Lloydy, thanks. That is a sweet 105 preset, the quintessential manual focus lens. What sparked my inquiry was your mention of small size to where you actually could pocket the lens. I agree your lens is a small lens when compared with automatic 105 MF lenses. You have for certain presented a lens worthy of consideration. Offered two lenses otherwise equivalent in all other respects, I would choose the smaller lens as well. And the very nearly round aperture of your lens is a nice bonus. |
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stevemark
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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stevemark wrote:
wolan wrote: |
Hi,
sorry, just noticed that a piece of my post went lost because of the special HTML characters in the text.
The requirements for such a lens are:
- very beautiful to exceptional bokeh
- sharp enough WO
- sharp to very sharp from f5.6 or at least from f8
I already have a few good lenses in that range, I am really looking for something original.
NB: yes, 105mm would also be ok.
Thanks. |
Rokkor 2/100mm.
Look here on my website for comparing the bokeh of five Minolta 85mm and 100mm lenses:
http://artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/466-bokeh-mc-1-7-85mm-md-2-85mm-ar-mc-2-100mm-mc-2-5-100mm-md-2-5-100mm
Stephan _________________ www.artaphot.ch |
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tomasg
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:15 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
I would suggest the Samyang (or any other name) 85 f1.4, i don t know if the bokeh can be defined as exceptional, but sure it s one of the strenghts of the lens. Sharpness WO is very good too, stopped down sharpness could be a weak point in your criteria. The lens has another advantage, is very simple to CLA, i did it on mine, i wouldn t hasitate to buy a second hand one, i saw the prices are very low.
Maybe it s only me but the lens has a good "separation", i don t wont to call it 3D, even at mid to long distance, see the examples (all WO):
#1
#2
#3
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wolan
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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wolan wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
Quite a few options, X-Fujinar EBC 100/2.8 to keep it in the family.
Leica R or M 90/2 (pre APO Asph is still good and much cheaper)
SMC Pentax K 85/1.8 or either 85 Takumar(1.9 or 1.
Topcor RE 85/1.8
Helios 40 or CZJ 75/1.5
Jupiter 9 |
Thanks, do you have pictures of the Fujinar lens to share? There is not much in Internet. |
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wolan
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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wolan wrote:
stevemark wrote: |
wolan wrote: |
Hi,
sorry, just noticed that a piece of my post went lost because of the special HTML characters in the text.
The requirements for such a lens are:
- very beautiful to exceptional bokeh
- sharp enough WO
- sharp to very sharp from f5.6 or at least from f8
I already have a few good lenses in that range, I am really looking for something original.
NB: yes, 105mm would also be ok.
Thanks. |
Rokkor 2/100mm.
Look here on my website for comparing the bokeh of five Minolta 85mm and 100mm lenses:
http://artaphot.ch/minolta-sr/objektiv-vergleiche/466-bokeh-mc-1-7-85mm-md-2-85mm-ar-mc-2-100mm-mc-2-5-100mm-md-2-5-100mm
Stephan |
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Lightshow
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
wolan wrote: |
Lightshow wrote: |
Quite a few options, X-Fujinar EBC 100/2.8 to keep it in the family.
Leica R or M 90/2 (pre APO Asph is still good and much cheaper)
SMC Pentax K 85/1.8 or either 85 Takumar(1.9 or 1.
Topcor RE 85/1.8
Helios 40 or CZJ 75/1.5
Jupiter 9 |
Thanks, do you have pictures of the Fujinar lens to share? There is not much in Internet. |
I think the M42 version is the same optics, I wish they made a standard 85mm rather than the soft focus 85.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/fujinonebc100mmf28 & https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/fujinonebc100mm28
& M42 https://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/fujinon100mmf28
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Fuji-Fujica-100mm-2-8-DM-EBC-X-Fujinon-T-lens-original-case-hood-caps-/252589436054
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Fuji-Fujica-100mm-2-8-DM-EBC-X-Fujinon-T-Objektiv-original-case-hood-caps-/152158536198
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