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scsambrook
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 Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 3:59 pm Post subject: Fuji X-Pro 1 |
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scsambrook wrote:
Has anyone experience of using the Fuji X-Pro 1 with MF lenses? I have a chance to buy one at a "silly price" but the reviews/blogs I've read are frequently contradictory. Any comments based on actual use would be welcomed.
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I'm not an X-Pro 1 user (X-E1 and X-E2 here) but the X-Pro 1 is a little long in the tooth now. You can't use the OVF for manual focusing unless you take the hyperfocal approach and the EVF is old tech. It does have peaking however, which i find more accurate than the Sony version.
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scsambrook
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:13 am Post subject: |
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scsambrook wrote:
Thanks, Graham. It's the EVF part that interests me - my plan would be to use my fast 85 to 100mm lenses that I now find hard to get accurate focus with my Leica. I can manage fine with my Lumix G1 but it's starting to mis-behave and will need to be replaced.
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| Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:52 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
| scsambrook wrote: |
| Thanks, Graham. It's the EVF part that interests me - my plan would be to use my fast 85 to 100mm lenses that I now find hard to get accurate focus with my Leica. I can manage fine with my Lumix G1 but it's starting to mis-behave and will need to be replaced. |
Well, the EVF is from my point of view one of the most important feature of such a camera. As I have several different ones I can easily judge the differences. Although there are better EVF's in terms of resolution, in terms of usability for MF lenses the GXR-M finder is still unbeaten. However, the Fuji system is still unknown to me, but what I've read so far it's also behind in that respect.
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LucisPictor wrote:
The EVFs in the Fuji are among the best you can find.
It's excellent in the X-T1 and very good in the X-E series.
The X-Pro1 also has a nice finder and the special hybrid one (which is not of much use when adapting manual lenses, though).
The X-Pro1 is a fine camera, but if you don't need the hybrid finder, you might rather go for an X-E1 which will also be pretty affordable meanwhile (= under €300,-).
If that "silly price" you mention means that it's an absolute bargain, then of course go for it.
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scsambrook
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scsambrook wrote:
Thanks to all for obervations - I've been dithering between replacing the Lumix G1 with a G5 or an XE-1 when along came the chance of an X-Pro body for not much more money than I'd pay for either of them. The X-Pro body is more Leica-like in its size and proportions, which is part of the attraction. The OVf would, for me at least, be pretty much irrelevant.
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duckrider wrote:
The possibilty to change from EVF to two variants (normal & wide) of OVF makes the X-pro a standalone masterpice of technology. Even if You think not to need it, You'll be satisfied with it. And who knows, perhaps there comes a X-lens round the corner one day...
The only reason I sold mine is fullformat for my wide necessarity, I regret to have sold the X-pro 1 today.
Go for it, there is no better choice!
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scsambrook wrote:
A postscript to my original question to thank everyone again but to say I decided not to buy the X Pro.
When I got to handle it I found I had serious problems seeing clearly through either the optical or electronic viewfinder. The camera has no eyepiece focus adjustment and not even my latest varifocal spectacles helped. Fujifilm make viewfinder correction lenses so I borrowed from my helpful optician a selection of lens blanks to see what I needed. The outcome was that I need one of +1.5 diopters to manage one finder and +2.5 for the other . . . but Fuji only make lenses in whole-diopter values and the difference was critical. I'd have had to get a custom made one (or two) at a price which was steep enough to put me off. My eyesight is, to say the least, rather problematic these days.
A great pity, as it really is a nice camera to handle.
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A postscript to my original question to thank everyone again but to say I decided not to buy the X Pro.
When I got to handle it I found I had serious problems seeing clearly through either the optical or electronic viewfinder. The camera has no eyepiece focus adjustment and not even my latest varifocal spectacles helped. Fujifilm make viewfinder correction lenses so I borrowed from my helpful optician a selection of lens blanks to see what I needed. The outcome was that I need one of +1.5 diopters to manage one finder and +2.5 for the other . . . but Fuji only make lenses in whole-diopter values and the difference was critical. I'd have had to get a custom made one (or two) at a price which was steep enough to put me off. My eyesight is, to say the least, rather problematic these days.
A great pity, as it really is a nice camera to handle. |
It once again shows that different folks have different needs. However, I am also considering the viewfinder and particularly the available focus aids as the most important features of any camera, especially for the use of MF lenses.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Olivier
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Olivier wrote:
I have the Fujifilm X-E1 and have no problems with the EVF and ability to focus with manual lenses.
I wear spectacles and don't have to let them aside for using the EVF.
Just my 2 cents. 
Oh, maybe there are some settings to set in the menu for MF.
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scsambrook wrote:
Olivier - thanks for that info about the XE-1. It has only the electronic viewfinder and also a dioptric adjustment on the eyepiece which means that I can get on with it okay. So well in fact that have now got one and I'm really pleased with what it produces for me with my old lenses. The eyepiece adjustment is fine enough to let me tune the image in sharply. If only the XPro-1 had been given the facility . . . 
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| Olivier - thanks for that info about the XE-1. It has only the electronic viewfinder and also a dioptric adjustment on the eyepiece which means that I can get on with it okay. So well in fact that have now got one and I'm really pleased with what it produces for me with my old lenses. The eyepiece adjustment is fine enough to let me tune the image in sharply. If only the XPro-1 had been given the facility . . . |
XE-1 has the same great sensor than X-Pro1. The only + I saw in X-Pro1 was the optical viewfinder and size a bit bigger. After some thinking I got the X-E1 instead and I'm happy with that.
What's fine with Fujifilm is that they follow their products well and give system and lenses softwares' updates.
Firmware for X-E1 : http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/firmware/x/xe1/download.html
Firmware for zoomlens 18-55mm : http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/firmware/lens/xf18-55mm/index.html
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| Olivier - thanks for that info about the XE-1. It has only the electronic viewfinder and also a dioptric adjustment on the eyepiece which means that I can get on with it okay. So well in fact that have now got one and I'm really pleased with what it produces for me with my old lenses. The eyepiece adjustment is fine enough to let me tune the image in sharply. If only the XPro-1 had been given the facility . . . |
While I love my X-Pro1, the X-E1 is the better camera for MF lenses. The EVF is better, and the focus peaking is more clear.
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eeyore_nl wrote:
Adding to this; X-E2 is even better, with coloured focus aids. X-T1 is best, with the large EVF.
For the original Fujinon XF primes (my 18mm and 35mm) I still prefer the X-Pro1.
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Olivier wrote:
Thx for the update.
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