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Larrea
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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:10 pm Post subject: Is there a Voigtländer expert in the room? - The VITO C len |
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Larrea wrote:
Hi. This is my first post and first of all I want to greet you all.
I have two Voigtländer VITO C.
Hopefully, with these two I will build a good one.
The problem is that the camera that is in the best conditions (the receiver) has a LANTHAR 2.8/50 lens and "the donor" comes with a COLOR-LANTHAR 2.8/50, I understand better quality.
The receiver and the donor
The receiver's optical train rings are in much better condition and outwardly looks identical in measurements to those of the donor.
Both shutters require cleaning because they move slowly and in the case of the donor, it remains slightly open. It is clear that I will have to disassemble to clean and lubricate.
Will it be possible to place the COLOR-LANTHAR glasses on the LANTHAR body as a simple replacement?
Regards
Eduardo Larrea |
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a Voigtländer expert in the room? - The VITO C |
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visualopsins wrote:
| Larrea wrote: |
Hi. This is my first post and first of all I want to greet you all.
I have two Voigtländer VITO C.
Hopefully, with these two I will build a good one.
The problem is that the camera that is in the best conditions (the receiver) has a LANTHAR 2.8/50 lens and "the donor" comes with a COLOR-LANTHAR 2.8/50, I understand better quality.
The receiver and the donor
The receiver's optical train rings are in much better condition and outwardly looks identical in measurements to those of the donor.
Both shutters require cleaning because they move slowly and in the case of the donor, it remains slightly open. It is clear that I will have to disassemble to clean and lubricate.
Will it be possible to place the COLOR-LANTHAR glasses on the LANTHAR body as a simple replacement?
Regards
Eduardo Larrea |
Welcome Eduardo!
Sorry I don't know. Maybe somebody here does know, or, you may discover yourself.
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
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M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX-A ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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tb_a
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tb_a wrote:
Welcome!
According to my records there is no difference at all between the Lanthar and the Color-Lanthar, though the Color prefix was only used with the CL model.
Conclusion: Your expectation is wrong. Both lenses should deliver identical image quality.
BTW, The Vito C is the basic Vito; 90.000 have been produced from 1959 to 1966.
Cheers,
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Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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Larrea
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Larrea wrote:
| tb_a wrote: |
| According to my records there is no difference at all between the Lanthar and the Color-Lanthar, though the Color prefix was only used with the CL model. |
Thanks for answering.
So there is no difference between both lenses. I will then concentrate on aesthetic improvements.
The striking thing is that this specimen seems to be out of the records. In this case, in the photo we can see (on the right) a VITO C equipped with a COLOR-LANTHAR contrary to registration.
I will see if other examples like mine appear on the web.
These days I would be receiving a VITORET equipped with a VASKAR. That must be different...
Regards,
Eduardo |
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tb_a
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tb_a wrote:
| Larrea wrote: |
| tb_a wrote: |
| According to my records there is no difference at all between the Lanthar and the Color-Lanthar, though the Color prefix was only used with the CL model. |
Thanks for answering.
So there is no difference between both lenses. I will then concentrate on aesthetic improvements.
The striking thing is that this specimen seems to be out of the records. In this case, in the photo we can see (on the right) a VITO C equipped with a COLOR-LANTHAR contrary to registration.
I will see if other examples like mine appear on the web.
These days I would be receiving a VITORET equipped with a VASKAR. That must be different...
Regards,
Eduardo |
It may well be that somebody already replaced the lens or only the name ring from a Vito CL.
Officially there was never any C like this.
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Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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titrisol70
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: Is there a Voigtländer expert in the room? - The VITO C |
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titrisol70 wrote:
BOth lenses will be identical or nearly identical
COLOR- was added in front when color film became ppular to ensure customers that the lenses will not only take BW pictures.
Now your shutters should be fine, they just need a little rinse with electric contact cleaner
| Larrea wrote: |
Hi. This is my first post and first of all I want to greet you all.
I have two Voigtländer VITO C.
Hopefully, with these two I will build a good one.
The problem is that the camera that is in the best conditions (the receiver) has a LANTHAR 2.8/50 lens and "the donor" comes with a COLOR-LANTHAR 2.8/50, I understand better quality.
The receiver and the donor
The receiver's optical train rings are in much better condition and outwardly looks identical in measurements to those of the donor.
Both shutters require cleaning because they move slowly and in the case of the donor, it remains slightly open. It is clear that I will have to disassemble to clean and lubricate.
Will it be possible to place the COLOR-LANTHAR glasses on the LANTHAR body as a simple replacement?
Regards
Eduardo Larrea |
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