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bghomofaber
Joined: 03 Mar 2016 Posts: 154
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:58 pm Post subject: Suggestion for a cheap but good lens set - M42 |
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bghomofaber wrote:
Hallo folks,
got a young girl (17yo) who is quite interested in analog. I have a good looking praktica nova set aside for her. lens is a tessar 2.8.
I'm looking for a couple classical zooms in m42 that be cheap but also decent or better quality, no matter how old or unknown.
She is a scout and this stuff will get rough treatment (maybe I will give her a nikonos for that only and the praktica for serious stuff).
Most important a 35 to something tele zoom and possibly more ( a 28 to something or so).
A tele zoom comes second in importance, range focals is less important than decent quality.
If she gets really interested I would get her a real wide angle but my favourite, mir 20, is not cheap now.
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1315 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
IMO, generally speaking, original M42 zooms from the 1960's and 1970's suffer in comparison with later ones. However M42 mount lenses were still common to much later, particularly from the third party lens makers and rebadgers.
One possibility to look at is tamron adaptall. These are swappable mount, M42 mounts are readily available, most are decent or good and several are particularly merit worthy - eg the 01A 35-80mm. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Which country do you live in? I have a bunch of M42 stuff for sale, including some zooms, mostly very cheap. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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newst
Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 617 Location: Troy, MI USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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newst wrote:
I don't have a lot of experience with the older zooms. One that I have used, is good quality and inexpensive is the FUJI FUJINON Z 43-75mm F 3.5-4.5 LENS which is sold in M42 and Fuji mount for about $40 US. _________________ Steve
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1839 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:48 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
just sold an M42 Sigma in mint condition, 28-84 (yes 84) which wasn't that bad at all..... it went for 10E.
but if she wants to get into manual lenses, i'd give her some primes like a Tokina RMC 28 and a cheap 135 (most are good) to start off with.
28, 50 and 135 make a great standard set for film shooting!
anyhow: tell her to have fun with it!
cheers, René. _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6000 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Another to consider is the Sun-Zoom 38-90mm F3.5
Here is one
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M42-Screw-Fit-Sun-Zoom-38-90mm-F3-5-Manual-Focus-Zoom-Lens-/351717260635?hash=item51e3fb7d5b:g:abYAAOSws8ZXHkrI
Likely to be cheap and reports are that it is quite good - and has a macro function.
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3704 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
With old zooms it is all about how clean interior is. They suck dust and usually have
at least one element with condensation. Buy from respected seller or after personal LED check / test.
Regarding 135mm, try to get Pentacon of course but in case you don't find any cheap ones,
Pentacon 200mm will be good too. Or Jupiter 4/200mm. _________________ ---------------------------------
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memetph
Joined: 01 Dec 2013 Posts: 940 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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memetph wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
Which country do you live in? I have a bunch of M42 stuff for sale, including some zooms, mostly very cheap. |
Which country is an excellent question . If your budget is tight , price , availability and eventual shipping costs will change a lot depending where you live. So it is difficult to answer to your question .
I won't go for zoom with M42 mount . And anyway, using prime lenses is a good school for a young photographer |
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bghomofaber
Joined: 03 Mar 2016 Posts: 154
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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bghomofaber wrote:
ty all, it's italy. I got a praktica 28/70 macro zoom lens shooting carelessly on ebay, fine lens probably but for praktica bayonet.
Not bad though I will buy likely a praktica with that mount cheap from somewher for her birthday.
Or will use it myself and give her a 28 as suggested and a tele.
I live in Italy so I buy from Europe but for low figures buying from outside EU is still good.
I'm also liking a possible mir 37 like this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301941637999?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
to match the nova, in the case I keep the nova and buy a praktica b mount for the girl with the first zoom.
I have also found many tamron adaptall like this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/391397704124?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
problem is that adapters are not original (but cheap), only my guess is that such adapters will work only stop down, am i right? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
why M42 ? most beginner want to take M42 , this is often increase their price vs others. Can you use others Olympus OM , Konica or Minolta ?
PB is an excellent choice! _________________ -------------------------------
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Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1315 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
If the praktica nova has auto aperture ie depresses the auto aperture pin, then you should get the original adaptall M42 mount, not the new clones from China.The latter will indeed be stop down only. Original ones are not difficult to find* for a reasonable price usually ie 15 euro or so, best way to get one effectively for nothing is with one of the common adaptall lenses eg the 80-210mm 103A, which you can readily find for less than 10E.
(*Msg me if you can't find one I have one spare).
I quite like the 27A it's good at 28mm end and has good colour rendition, however it is susceptible to flare and the 01A is significantly better, specifically for close focus and at 80mm end. The price on the ebay ad you link to is just OK, not unreasonable, but the 27A is not difficult to get for less (and I also have one of these...). _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
A classic zoom or two: VS1 (komine), Kiron Zoomlock... |
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Giorgio
Joined: 17 Jan 2016 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Giorgio wrote:
Tamron zooms are an excellent choice, providing that you'll acquire a Tamron Adaptall 2 to Pentax M42 original adapter, made in Japan (avoid imitations). I recommend the 103A (80-210mm f/3.8 ) and the 09A (35-70mm f/3.5 ) lenses. They are both inexpensive and perform really well. Good luck! |
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Lee|Ratters
Joined: 23 Sep 2014 Posts: 78 Location: Bristol | UK
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Lee|Ratters wrote:
My only M42 experience is with primes. I know you wanted zooms but.....
Helios 44-2 & Helios 135/2.8 MC - Both worthy lens IMO & you could probably pick them both up for 50-60 quid _________________ Flickr |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
For the longer telezoom you can look out for the first series 1 Vivitar 70-210mm 3.5 with "macro" (nr 22xxxxxx).
Sold in M42 too and big and heavy, but still a good lens. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3704 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Attila wrote: |
why M42 ? most beginner want to take M42 , this is often increase their price vs others. Can you use others Olympus OM , Konica or Minolta ?
PB is an excellent choice! |
+1 used Minolta SLR cameras go for peanuts and it is really much easier to find MD bayonet zoom then M42 _________________ ---------------------------------
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buerokratiehasser
Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts: 470
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 11:21 am Post subject: |
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
I dunno, with all the EVIL cameras and stuff, you no longer get MD for 1 + ship is my impression.
If it has to be a zoom, why not try the c/d umcs. with 60-300 you can go for birds and almost normal at the same time. There is also 28-200 from that series but I don't know how good it is (it probably is).
Not sure they made it for m42. It's from the early 1990s I believe when M42 was being phased out. |
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bghomofaber
Joined: 03 Mar 2016 Posts: 154
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:26 am Post subject: |
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bghomofaber wrote:
Git finally a yashica fx3 with 28, 50 and 135 yashinon lenses in good shape, plus assorted materials as bonus.
I had an fx3 in the nineties and regretted selling it.
I have contax lenses so the girl might benefit of them eventually if she behaves. |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2965 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Depending on the money involved a Konica system can be had for not much. When I moved to A7ii I started gathering Konica stuff. My first purchase was a Konica Autoreflex with 52mm 1.8, 135mm 3.5, 50mm 1.7. plus accessories like flash, and filters. That was last August and it set me back a mere 50 USD. Konica zooms are still relatively inexpensive and pretty good as well. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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