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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: testing my lenses - part 75 - Minolta MD Rokkor 135mm/3.5 |
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WolverineX wrote:
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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nixland
Joined: 30 Jan 2011 Posts: 577
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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nixland wrote:
Woww ... what a Rokkor rendering
Thanks for sharing. _________________ Carl Zeiss Jena: Biotar 58/2 1Q, DDR Pancolar 80/1.8 MC, Biotar 75/1.5, Biotar 10cm/2, DDR Sonnar 135/3.5 MC
Carl Zeiss C/Y: Planar 50/1.4 T*, Planar 85/1.4 T*, Planar 100/2 T*, Sonnar 135/2.8 T*
Leica: Summicron-R 35/2 v1, Summicron-R 50/2, Summilux-R 80/1.4, Summicron-R 90/2
Pentax: A 50/1.2
Minolta: Rokkor MC 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 85/1.7, Rokkor MC 100/2, MD 200/2.8
Olympus: Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2, Zuiko 50/1.2, Zuiko MC Auto-T 85/2, Zuiko Auto-T 100/2
Nikon: Nikkor 28/2.8 Ais, Nikkor 85/1.8, Nikkor 105/1.8, 300/2.8 ED (Ais)
Canon: FD 50/1.2 L, FD 85/1.2 L
Sony: 135/2.8 STF
Jupiter: 85/2 Alu
Cyclop: 85/1.5
Meyer-Optic: Trioplan 100/2.8, Orestor 100/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5
Samyang: 8/3.5 FE, 14/2.8, 85/1.4, 85/1.4 UMC
FOR SALE
Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 10cm/2 || Carl Zeiss ZE Distagon 28/2 || Minolta Rokkor MD 35/1.8 || Rokkor-X MC 85/1.7 || Rokkor MD 85/1.7 || Olympus Zuiko MC Auto-W 21/2 || Olympus 100/2 || Nikon Nikkor 35/1.4 || Canon: FD 55/1.2 || Vivitar 90/2.5 Series 1 VMC || Tamron: 90/2.5 SP
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
nixland wrote: |
Woww ... what a Rokkor rendering
Thanks for sharing. |
yeah, i also like this lens _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Where are my sunglasses??! |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
Minolfan wrote: |
Where are my sunglasses??! |
? _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Very contrasty and sharp - nearly too much for my eyes! |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
Minolfan wrote: |
Very contrasty and sharp - nearly too much for my eyes! |
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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aspen
Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 307 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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aspen wrote:
nixland wrote: |
Woww ... what a Rokkor rendering
Thanks for sharing. |
+1 _________________ Cameras; Sony Nex5n Lenses; Konica Hexanons; 21mm f2.8, 40mm f1,8, 50mm f1.4, 50mmf1.7,57mm f1.4, 100mm f2.8, 135mm f3.2, 200mm f4, MC Helios 77M-4 50mm f1.8, Jupiter 8 50 f2, Super Takumar 85mm f1.9, Vivitar Series 1 90mm f2.5 (Macro), Steinheil Munchen Culminar 85mm f2.8, Steinheil Munchen Exagon 35mm f2.8, Jupiter 37A 135mm, Astra Berlin 135mm f3.5, Angenieux 180mm f4 , Tair 3-PhS 300mm f4.5 |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Very impressive lens, any chance of a picture of the lens ? I'd like to see if it's the same as the one I've got. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Is this the MD X version, or the last one made that was just marked MD.
I've tried to buy this lens a few times because I knew it's performance and keep getting distracted by other auctions.
I actually bought this lens on the Bay once in a BIN, and it was refunded because he said he didn't have it anymore.
The last MD version is te one I'm after. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
Very impressive lens, any chance of a picture of the lens ? I'd like to see if it's the same as the one I've got. |
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
mine looks the same but it's a 2.8, whether that makes it a better lens I don't know, but if it's nearly as good as yours I'll be happy.
The only problem is the back element is fungused so it's got to come apart. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
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http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
new samples using E-M5
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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DR.JUAN
Joined: 08 Feb 2013 Posts: 661
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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:32 am Post subject: |
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DR.JUAN wrote:
Very, very good rendering.
My 2,8 has a similar rendering. Nice lens. |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:07 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Very nice again.
I have the 2.8 version and a beautiful old 2.8 one from the sixties that I did not test yet. |
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rudolfkremers
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 723 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:07 am Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
I just bought this lens partially because of this thread.
There is something I was wondering about. Nearly all your photos, regardless of gear and glass, are very crisp and have a lot of pop. I wonder if, in addition to your obvious skills as a photographer, if you have a signature PP style? How much sharpening do you use for example?
Thanks! _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rudolfkremers/
https://www.facebook.com/rudolf.kremers
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
rudolfkremers wrote: |
I just bought this lens partially because of this thread.
There is something I was wondering about. Nearly all your photos, regardless of gear and glass, are very crisp and have a lot of pop. I wonder if, in addition to your obvious skills as a photographer, if you have a signature PP style? How much sharpening do you use for example?
Thanks! |
i use gimphoto program and unsharp mask settings of radius 5,0 amount 0,5 threshold 0 (always same setting). other than that, i correct black point and white point in input levels
correcting black point is the one thing that most often gives a pop to the photo _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
Outstanding images!
From the diamond shape mark on the lens, this version is the MD-I model.
It's their 4 elements in 4 groups design. I have a copy under their Celtic label. It's one of my favorite 135s as it's razor sharp.
The f/2.8 version of the MD-I is also excellent, and highly sought after.
For the poster seeking the last MD version, also known as the MD-III, that design was different being a 5/5 formula. It's the same as the Rokkor MD-II formula, but dropped the Rokkor label, and the body revised.
Note that Rokkor and Rokkor-X are the same, the -X was added by North American marketing.
Edit: Oops, just realized this is a resurrected thread. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
And a bunch of Manual-Focus Lenses
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papasito
Joined: 09 Jan 2015 Posts: 1659
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Taking about the 2,8/135 Md rokkor 4/4 versión, is good. But it lacks contrast in very lighted images because the coated and suffers a normal to high CA. Burned highlights.
The only problem is the coated. Anyway gives the character to the Rokkors. |
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rudolfkremers
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 723 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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rudolfkremers wrote:
WolverineX wrote: |
rudolfkremers wrote: |
I just bought this lens partially because of this thread.
There is something I was wondering about. Nearly all your photos, regardless of gear and glass, are very crisp and have a lot of pop. I wonder if, in addition to your obvious skills as a photographer, if you have a signature PP style? How much sharpening do you use for example?
Thanks! |
i use gimphoto program and unsharp mask settings of radius 5,0 amount 0,5 threshold 0 (always same setting). other than that, i correct black point and white point in input levels
correcting black point is the one thing that most often gives a pop to the photo |
Well, it certainly works!
Thanks for the explanation! _________________ https://www.rudolfkremers.com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rudolfkremers/
https://www.facebook.com/rudolf.kremers
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hartt
Joined: 14 Mar 2016 Posts: 2 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:48 am Post subject: |
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hartt wrote:
After seeing this thread I made a search around and just received an offer. The attached images show it's the very same version. I think I'll take it . |
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Boris_Akunin
Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Posts: 392 Location: Bremen, Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Boris_Akunin wrote:
WNG555 wrote: |
For the poster seeking the last MD version, also known as the MD-III, that design was different being a 5/5 formula. It's the same as the Rokkor MD-II formula, but dropped the Rokkor label, and the body revised. |
The 5/5 version appears to be even better:
135/3.5 (4/4, 420g):
135/3.5 (5/5, 265g/285g):
135/2.8 (4/4, 535g):
135/2.8 (5/5, 365g/385g):
(source: artaphot.ch)
It's ~1.5cm shorter and a lot lighter (265g/285g vs 420g) too, the focus ring isn't as smooth as on the MC-X & MD-I version though.
Overall, the 4-lens f/2.8 probably has the edge among Minolta's 135s but the 5-lens f/3.5 seems to be the best compact option.
If f/3.5 isn't fast enough, the MD100/2.5 (MD-III: 310g) may be a compact alternative.
I had the 4-lens 135/2.8 but I didn't like the weight. I'm much happier with the MD-II 85/2 and the MD-II/III 135/3.5. _________________ Sony: A7 | Samyang FE 35/2.8 | Sony FE 85/1.8
Pentax: K-5 | K28/3.5 | M50/1.7 | DA18-135/3.5-5.6 | F35-70/3.5-4.5
Minolta: X-500 | XD | MD35/2.8 | MC50/1.4 | MD200/4 | MD75-150/4
Canon: nFD24/2.8 | nFD35/2 | nFD50/1.4 | nFD300/5.6 | nFD35-105/3.5
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Main thing those test show is that all the Minolta MD 135s are very good lenses. You'd have to really pixel peep to notice a difference. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Oly camera? _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Oly camera? |
are you asking me or Boris_Akunin?
if it's me, then it's Oly E-M5 _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
http://forum.mflenses.com/wolverinex-testing-my-lenses-series-link-list-t39524.html |
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