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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: testing my lenses - part 24 - Tokina AT-X 80-200mm/2.8 |
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WolverineX wrote:
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5078 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Any picture of the lens itself ?
Rendering seems ok !
Interesting to see that we have same vegetation here in northern France. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Any picture of the lens itself ?
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taken with my mobile phone
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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dimitrygo
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 561
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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dimitrygo wrote:
Wow, the first 3 look fantastic. |
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Laurentiu Cristofor
Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Posts: 524 Location: WA, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:55 am Post subject: Re: testing my lenses - part 24 - Tokina AT-X 80-200mm/2.8 |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
Are they all wide open? It would be great to mention the aperture for each shot. _________________ http://www.ipernity.com/home/2419272
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:30 am Post subject: Re: testing my lenses - part 24 - Tokina AT-X 80-200mm/2.8 |
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WolverineX wrote:
Laurentiu Cristofor wrote: |
Are they all wide open? It would be great to mention the aperture for each shot. |
well, i don't keep notes about aperture (it would kill the joy of taking photos if i stopped after the each shot and wrote down the aperture for each shot), but from memory photos with pink and yellow flowers were stopped down, rest are wide open (i shot the bird photo through the closed window) _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5078 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Nice 3D in the first one. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
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(i shot the bird photo through the closed window) |
I like that shot of the sparrow very much. Funny birds. They were here in masses in earlier days but in the last decades they dissappear more and more. They often stole my bait when I was fihing, creeping in the plastic bag, but nowadays the don't even show up when the ducks ared feeded. |
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jun
Joined: 25 Jan 2011 Posts: 54 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:01 am Post subject: are those asbestos roof? |
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jun wrote:
OT but i can't help but notice the roof in the bid pictures looks like asbestos? _________________ mc rokkor 58 f1.4, mc rokkor 135 f2.8, canon fd 50 f1.4, yashica ml 50 f1.9, sigma 80-200 f4, tokina 80-200 f4, sony nex 16mm f2.8, sony alpha 18-70 f3.5-5.6, pentax smc f 35-70mm f3.5-5.6, canon efs 18-55 f3.5-5.6, tokina 28 f2.8, canon fl 58 f1.2 |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
Minolfan wrote: |
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(i shot the bird photo through the closed window) |
I like that shot of the sparrow very much. Funny birds. They were here in masses in earlier days but in the last decades they dissappear more and more. They often stole my bait when I was fihing, creeping in the plastic bag, but nowadays the don't even show up when the ducks ared feeded. |
here there are lots of them, especially where i shot that photo, there is a big flock of them there
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OT but i can't help but notice the roof in the bid pictures looks like asbestos?
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that roof is made whith "salonit" plates that contained asbestos in past and looking how old the roof of that shed looks it probably is asbestos _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:47 am Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
it would be nice to know the aperture used on each photo. also some photos with sun or some strong light in front. these photos are nice, but doesn´t really say much about quality of the lens _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5078 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
berraneck wrote: |
it would be nice to know the aperture used on each photo. also some photos with sun or some strong light in front. these photos are nice, but doesn´t really say much about quality of the lens |
Wolverine wrote :
"from memory photos with pink and yellow flowers were stopped down, rest are wide open (i shot the bird photo through the closed window)"
which are some indications. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:04 am Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
berraneck wrote: |
it would be nice to know the aperture used on each photo. also some photos with sun or some strong light in front. these photos are nice, but doesn´t really say much about quality of the lens |
Wolverine wrote :
"from memory photos with pink and yellow flowers were stopped down, rest are wide open (i shot the bird photo through the closed window)"
which are some indications. |
when i stop the lens down it's usualy 2-3 stops max
as for sunlight in front, i'll take some photos this weekend , it should be sunny here, but because of the large front element ,i'm guessing, it would be good to have a hood (so i bought a rubber one for mamiya medium format lenses as this lens has filter diameter of 77mm) _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
berraneck wrote: |
it would be nice to know the aperture used on each photo. also some photos with sun or some strong light in front. these photos are nice, but doesn´t really say much about quality of the lens |
here are some shots from sunday, first two are shot towards the sun without the hood, all photos are untouched, just resized for posting here
for a lens with large front glass this lens is pretty resistant to flare, it showed up only when i almost directed the lens straight at the sun
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
some new samples taken at the Adriatic sea
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
I've got the same lens..
its a nice to have 2.8 lens, but not very useful at open aperture.
There is a miscorrection of a spectral color (blue) at f2.8..
if you stop down the lens to f5.6... its a lot better. So this makes the lens average..
This is a comparison shot Tokina at f4 against a converted
Canon FD 4/80-200L
(left Tokina, right Canon)
IMHO the lens is not very usefull at f2.8.. stopped down to f5.6.. its a good performer but why should i buy a 2.8 lens to use it only at f4-5.6 or above?
Cheers
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
i disagree, i shoot it wide open most of the time and i get results that satisfy me _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
Here is a link for better resolution.. to see the problem with the lens..
Left Tokina right Canon
http://dunkelnetz.de/images/objektivtests/tokina_atx-sd_2.8_80-200mm/ca1.jpg
And this is not a problem of sharpness or contrast.. _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
new samples with E-M5 (Adriatic edition)
_________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
One of these has come up for sale cheap locally and I've been looking around the net for info. Every page I find has the same discussion - some say it is crap until stopped down to 5.6, others say it is fine wide open. I'm wondering whether to gamble on it, the other thing that puts me off is the weight, at 3 pounds it sounds like a lens needing a tripod. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
this is one of my favorite lenses. if you can get it cheap, go for it, try it, and if you don't like it , you can always resell it (well, now i really told you something you don't know )
lens has tripod mount but i always use it hand held, but i use it with cameras with viewfinder and great stabilisation
it benefits from having a lens hood. i got myself collapsible one from medium format mamiya _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
hinnerker wrote: |
I've got the same lens..
its a nice to have 2.8 lens, but not very useful at open aperture.
There is a miscorrection of a spectral color (blue) at f2.8..
if you stop down the lens to f5.6... its a lot better. So this makes the lens average..
This is a comparison shot Tokina at f4 against a converted
Canon FD 4/80-200L
(left Tokina, right Canon)
IMHO the lens is not very usefull at f2.8.. stopped down to f5.6.. its a good performer but why should i buy a 2.8 lens to use it only at f4-5.6 or above?
Cheers
Henry |
i know this was 2 years ago , but i think it isn't fair comparison, tokina has huge front glass, it takes 77mm filter, while this canon takes 58mm filter, so off course tokina will be softer wide open because of more light gathering than canon. _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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Lena
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Lena wrote:
I have this lens in AF version and there are varying opinions here as well. Still I admire your ability to use it hand held. It weighs! |
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
Lena wrote: |
Still I admire your ability to use it hand held. It weighs! |
thank you
i actually like it's weight _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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fermy
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:46 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
WolverineX wrote: |
i know this was 2 years ago , but i think it isn't fair comparison, tokina has huge front glass, it takes 77mm filter, while this canon takes 58mm filter, so off course tokina will be softer wide open because of more light gathering than canon. |
As far as I understood, both lenses were shot at F4 in this comparison. Of course it's unfair to shoot f2.8 v F4! _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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