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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:40 pm    Post subject: My new Vivitar S1 90/2.5 Reply with quote
My latest purchase in the bay...
First some shots from our garden.
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and here some from landscape in the morning...
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For me it looks better still than the Hexanon 85/1.8

Dachs


PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm very jealous! great lens, will need to keep looking for one myself, looks sharp!


PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Tamron SP 90 / 2.5 has the reputation to beat - but the Vivitar is good, your pictures show just how good. I'd love to see a shoot out between them.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
is the Vivitar series 1 not the same lens Tokinas "Bokina? if so I thought it was far superior to the the tamron?


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
caledonia84 wrote:
is the Vivitar series 1 not the same lens Tokinas "Bokina? if so I thought it was far superior to the the tamron?


That's what I thought too? Photodos of both lenses (tokina standing in there).

Dachs, some good shots there! One thing I would recommend if you haven't already - get a hood for it - I didn't bother tracking down the original and just got a generic "58mm telephoto hood" from the bay and it works fine. On a few of those shots (3/4/5/11 especially) it looks like you have some of the familiar veiling flare I ran into before I got hoods for mine. While they're outstanding lenses (I have the vivitar in OM and the tokina in nikon) they can get hit by flare very hard if you have light hitting that very prominent front element.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
piggsy wrote:

caledonia84 wrote:
is the Vivitar series 1 not the same lens Tokinas "Bokina? if so I thought it was far superior to the the tamron?

That's what I thought too? Photodos of both lenses (tokina standing in there).

Dachs, some good shots there! One thing I would recommend if you haven't already - get a hood for it - I didn't bother tracking down the original and just got a generic "58mm telephoto hood" from the bay and it works fine. On a few of those shots (3/4/5/11 especially) it looks like you have some of the familiar veiling flare I ran into before I got hoods for mine. While they're outstanding lenses (I have the vivitar in OM and the tokina in nikon) they can get hit by flare very hard if you have light hitting that very prominent front element.

1. IMHO, the Tamron 90/2.5 Macro is a very good lens, but both Bokina lenses are a smidge better.

2. As far as the flare goes, yes, a hood does help quite a bit under some lighting conditions. (Of course, this is true for a lot of lenses...)

3. I was not aware that the VS1 90/2.5 Macro had an "official" hood. (?)

4. The AT-X 90/2.5 Macro does have a Tokina dedicated hood (which is identical, except for markings, to the Tokina hood for the RMC 100-300/5.6).

5. I think that the newer Tokina 90/2.5 Macro coatings might be a bit more effective than the older VS1 90/2.5 Macro VMC coatings.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, good lens of course but NEVER miss using a hood, that loss of contrast really is a shame for such a wonderful lens!!


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I own the Tokina 90mm with extender (Nikon mount), but not the original hood. One day I found the hood of a MD Macro 100mm f4 screw-in 55mm and it does good service as well. Lenght is about the same. However, does anyone know the part number of the original hood?


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
quidam wrote:
I own the Tokina 90mm with extender (Nikon mount), but not the original hood. One day I found the hood of a MD Macro 100mm f4 screw-in 55mm and it does good service as well. Lenght is about the same. However, does anyone know the part number of the original hood?

SH-551


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks Calvin.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:52 pm    Post subject: Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 Macro Lens Hoods Reply with quote
calvin83 wrote:
quidam wrote:
I own the Tokina 90mm with extender (Nikon mount), but not the original hood. One day I found the hood of a MD Macro 100mm f4 screw-in 55mm and it does good service as well. Lenght is about the same. However, does anyone know the part number of the original hood?

SH-551


[I apologize for what is actually not about the thread's original topic, but discussions of either one of the "Bokina twins" do often bring up comments and/or questions about the other one, too.]

I have two Tokina hoods that fit the Tokina AT-X 90/2.5, and, while their markings are different, they are both physically identical and interchangeable.

The "official" dedicated hood says "Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 Ø55 Japan". It measures 50mm in length. Its diameter at the clip-on base is 74mm, and its diameter at the open end is 77mm (it flares slightly).

The "generic" (so to speak) Tokina hood says "Tokina SH-551 Ø55 Japan". It is exactly the same in size, shape, and clip-on style. (I am using it on an RMC Tokina 100-300/5.6 lens, which came with it.)

There are a couple of nice features to the hood design -- its clip-on method is quite secure, with a four-fingers-in-a-groove, claw-like mounting method (so it's not at all easy to knock it off by accident), and, when clipped on in reverse position, the lens cap can still snap into the 55mm filter threads.

I use the "Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 Ø55" hood on the 90/2.5 even when inside, out of the sunlight, since it helps to prevent hitting the front of the lens on something (such as the close object being photographed, which is a particular hazard for a macro lens).

EDIT: Here are a few pix of the two AT-X 90/2.5 Macro identical (except for markings) hood models:





And here you can see how the dedicated case, for the lens and its 1:1 extender, includes just enough room for the hood, attached to the lens in a reversed position, with the front lens cap installed:



And, just to keep this post "sort of" on topic, here is a pic of the similar cases for the two "Bokina twins":



Last edited by fwcetus on Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:14 pm; edited 6 times in total


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Nice results from an epic lens.
I own the Tamron 90mm f/2.5 52BB, and it's a very good performer. But judging images from the Bokina, I think the bokeh and overall quality of the results are a bit better than the Tamron.


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
fwcetus wrote:
piggsy wrote:

caledonia84 wrote:
is the Vivitar series 1 not the same lens Tokinas "Bokina? if so I thought it was far superior to the the tamron?

That's what I thought too? Photodos of both lenses (tokina standing in there).

Dachs, some good shots there! One thing I would recommend if you haven't already - get a hood for it - I didn't bother tracking down the original and just got a generic "58mm telephoto hood" from the bay and it works fine. On a few of those shots (3/4/5/11 especially) it looks like you have some of the familiar veiling flare I ran into before I got hoods for mine. While they're outstanding lenses (I have the vivitar in OM and the tokina in nikon) they can get hit by flare very hard if you have light hitting that very prominent front element.

1. IMHO, the Tamron 90/2.5 Macro is a very good lens, but both Bokina lenses are a smidge better.

2. As far as the flare goes, yes, a hood does help quite a bit under some lighting conditions. (Of course, this is true for a lot of lenses...)

3. I was not aware that the VS1 90/2.5 Macro had an "official" hood. (?)

4. The AT-X 90/2.5 Macro does have a Tokina dedicated hood (which is identical, except for markings, to the Tokina hood for the RMC 100-300/5.6).

5. I think that the newer Tokina 90/2.5 Macro coatings might be a bit more effective than the older VS1 90/2.5 Macro VMC coatings.


Very interesting. I assumed because the Tamron is much more than a smidge cheaper than the Tokina and Vivitar then it would be quite inferior, perhaps its worth selling my Elicar VHQ 90mm f2.5 and looking for a well priced Tamron 90/2.5 and matched adapter


PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
caledonia84 wrote:

fwcetus wrote:

1. IMHO, the Tamron 90/2.5 Macro is a very good lens, but both Bokina lenses are a smidge better. [...]

Very interesting. I assumed because the Tamron is much more than a smidge cheaper than the Tokina and Vivitar then it would be quite inferior, [...]


Well (and both of us can probably name many examples of this "phenomenon"), there is not necessarily a linear relationship between cost and IQ in lenses -- sometimes a significant increase in price must be overcome to obtain a modest increase in quality. [But, one may on occasion find himself/herself in the right place at the right time to score a top-notch lens for a modest cost...]


PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
fwcetus wrote:

1. IMHO, the Tamron 90/2.5 Macro is a very good lens, but both Bokina lenses are a smidge better.



I have never owned either Vivitar or Tokina, so I cannot comment on their sharpness, however I find Tamron to be razor sharp with great colors and contrast, even at 2.5. It can easily keep up with my other Fuji (XF) primes. I have the 52bb version that I picked up from eBay for cheap. I use it regularly for professional portraiture.

A shot from last night (@f2.5), goofing around with my son. Shot in jpeg with minor levels adjustment and resize/sharpening for web. X-T1

SNXT6626


PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very impressive!


PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Like Dog


PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
caledonia84 wrote:
perhaps its worth selling my Elicar VHQ 90mm f2.5 and looking for a well priced Tamron 90/2.5 and matched adapter


I wouldn't expect you to gain anything by that. The Elicar is just as good as the Tamron, with the added bonus of not needing to mess about with a matched adapter. Smile


PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good to know!


PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
And just to add to starlight's (and everyone else's) observations on the Tamron 90mm SP, a recent shot from an old Olympus E-PM1 (12MP m43). Wide open. Sooc jpg. Just a resize, nothing else.



100% crop


I'm very happy Tuzki with lens


PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sharp! Just as expected.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sharp! Just as expected.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sharp! Just as expected.


PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've just seen one sale, very nice condition, all the caps and cases, complete with the TC, for £400
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