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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:46 pm Post subject: Help!! Tamron 70-210 3.8-4 CF or Kiron 70-210 f4 macro?? |
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francotirador wrote:
Hello guys.
I am returning to analog photography. And want one zoom for my Contax RST II.
My doubt is between these lenses.
Tamron 70-210 MAcro f3.8-4 CF & Macro Kiron 70,210 f4
Yashica Contax mount
I would appreciate your opinions.
Best regards
Sergio _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Kiron usually sharper, more contrast and more weight ( a lot) _________________ -------------------------------
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1318 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
I have done some comparison between these two lenses (tamron 46A and kiron "zoomlock") in the past. Actually in terms of sharpness they were pretty equal. Although the 46A was tamron's standard 3x consumer telephoto (third incarnation) I think it performs well actually and is better for fringing and colour balance than the preceding 103A. The kiron wins handily though on colours for which it has something of a reputation, and edged contrast.
Other factors to consider are what camera(s) you are using. The adaptall is obviously inherently more versatile, mount can be swapped, and with NAI or PKA mounts gives auto aperture operation on Nikon/Pentax respectively. And it's lighter and easier to handle. The kiron is rather front heavy and clunky and ~250g heavier.
Both can be acquired for bargain prices, I got my zoomlock for a tenner and the 46A for next to nothing, the 46A more easily than the kiron, for the latter you may have to be patient waiting for one in a desired mount to crop up.
46A review here
http://nextimelah.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/tamron-adaptall-2-70-210mm-f38-4-46a.html
PS I have a spare zoomlock in C/Y ... _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:46 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
I have the Tamron 80-210 103A and the Kiron 70-210 Zoomlock. Of the two, the Kiron wins for the reasons given by Marcus.
Also the Zoomlock button is very handy.
My copy of the 103A sucked. It could've been internally loose as it couldn't get sharp.
Both are cheap, $10 and $13 respectively were my costs.
But I'd recommend the Tamron SP 60-300 23A instead. Far better performance and reach and possibly the last zoom you'll need. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I was very happy with Tamron SP 70-210mm f3.5 , heavy lens also like Kiron and even better. _________________ -------------------------------
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WolverineX
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 1693 Location: Zagreb , Croatia , Europe
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:52 am Post subject: |
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WolverineX wrote:
i can recommend Tokina AT-X 50-250mm/4-5.6. it comes in many mounts, it's not heavy, it's cheap, it has macro option that goes to 1:1,4 on it's own... _________________ my tools:Oly E-M5 + 45mm/1.8 + Oly E-520 + 12-60 + 14-42 + 70-300 + Sigma 105mm + FL-50R + EC20 + SRF-11 ring flash
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well the problem in recommending old film lenses is that you can get copy variation e.g. I was so disappointed with my Vivitar series 1 zoom made by Tokina that I threw it away (well I paid £4 and have too many zooms). I remember in the past the pros would go to their friendly dealers\shops and try the lenses out and only buy the best copy, they might still do it today.
But if you can get the Kiron 80-200 f4 non zoomlock cheap it's worth trying as my copy is very good and only loses out to primes on very large crops. My copy's weakness is in close ups (macro) so I never use it for that. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
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