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Marek
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:26 pm Post subject: Is Trioplan 12cm worthy of $230? |
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Marek wrote:
The question is pretty simple Opinions, please?
Could be both nice bokeh and collectors item.
Item I am talking about is M42 and pretty well preserved (not the very same as on the pic though).
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2965 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Likely. Time alone will tell. If you use it cautiously you can still retain the "collector" value. It seems an unusual FL for trioplan. I have the 100 2.8 in near mint, zebra livery, with case, that I got just as word was spreading. I snagged it as the only bidder at 79 USD. I recently saw a similar style version ( though not near as good of condition) go for close to 400 USD. I have used mine, judiciously, a few times. Eventually I want to make a plastic adapter for it as it has very little damage from mount-dismount (the black finish really shows that) and I want to keep it as nice as possible. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Looks a pre-war lens, some of them fetch unbelievable price , some not . In general longer lens usually not fetch high price , their doesn't look well enough in collector cabinets _________________ -------------------------------
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I think this is a simple case of being very sorry later if you don't buy it. _________________ Regards,
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
This is actually the item: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meyer-Trioplan-4-5-12cm-Contax-S-Pentax-m42-/252077753060
The seller asked extra money for VAT which never happened to me this way, sent invoice with no VAT, was paid, cancelled the deal today (he refunded me immediately) and after come complains made me a new invoice with VAT this time.
Not much happy about, both his behavior and the money rise.
Respecting I think I am not obliged to buy/pay technically cancelled deal (with my disagreement on cancellation) without any penalties, I am considering whether or not to buy it.
But the item is nice, M42, probably still relative cheap for an Ebay item.
Was re-listed already, first time possibly the very same situation happened, and highest bid of the former item auction was almost a $100 higher. Still feel strange about though. _________________ Angry young man !
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
f/4.5 Didn't realize it was that slow. Still, you could probably make money on it. As for VAT, I don't know the rules but can find out. I buy many lenses in Poland. In fact, most of my lenses. I have never paid VAT - and I do have them shipped to a Poland address. _________________ Regards,
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 825 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:40 am Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
I paid $201.99 USD for my copy in Exakta mount about 1 year ago, and it wasn't in as nice shape as the one shown. It cost an extra $35 to bring it up to snuff. It renders very nicely, in classic Trioplan triplet style, but does not have nearly the extravagant bokeh stylings of the 100mm f/2.8. It is a well designed triplet, but uncoated, lacks the contrast and punch of a modern lens. _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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Marek
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:49 am Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
Thanks guys.
Just bought that piece of metal shit Life is too short. _________________ Angry young man !
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woodrim
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:43 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
pdccameras wrote: |
I paid $201.99 USD for my copy in Exakta mount about 1 year ago, and it wasn't in as nice shape as the one shown. It cost an extra $35 to bring it up to snuff. It renders very nicely, in classic Trioplan triplet style, but does not have nearly the extravagant bokeh stylings of the 100mm f/2.8. It is a well designed triplet, but uncoated, lacks the contrast and punch of a modern lens. |
Have you posted images from it? _________________ Regards,
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 825 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:47 am Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
pdccameras wrote: |
I paid $201.99 USD for my copy in Exakta mount about 1 year ago, and it wasn't in as nice shape as the one shown. It cost an extra $35 to bring it up to snuff. It renders very nicely, in classic Trioplan triplet style, but does not have nearly the extravagant bokeh stylings of the 100mm f/2.8. It is a well designed triplet, but uncoated, lacks the contrast and punch of a modern lens. |
Have you posted images from it? |
Not yet, I should have some this weekend! _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:31 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Not sure these old Trioplans represent good value. You can buy Trioplans in shutter attached to old folders for a tiny fraction of the cost. Then there are the other triplets like the Radionar, Triotar and Voigtar. I have loads of them from 75 to 150mm. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Not sure these old Trioplans represent good value. You can buy Trioplans in shutter attached to old folders for a tiny fraction of the cost. Then there are the other triplets like the Radionar, Triotar and Voigtar. I have loads of them from 75 to 150mm. |
I did try these effect not same than with postwar Trioplan 100. _________________ -------------------------------
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Marek
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
Nevermind, if I wont like the item or will need some money, I am a very gifted seller Never sold anything with a loss since my very first Sigma 105mm and some Olympus stuff
And Trioplan brand = Apple _________________ Angry young man !
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Marek
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Marek wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Not sure these old Trioplans represent good value. You can buy Trioplans in shutter attached to old folders for a tiny fraction of the cost. Then there are the other triplets like the Radionar, Triotar and Voigtar. I have loads of them from 75 to 150mm. |
Dont you accidentally have Tele-Xenar 240/5.5 Exa Silver or 360/5.5 the very same, or Tele Megor 25cm (silver, Werner von Braun rockets kind of looking)? _________________ Angry young man !
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, the slower 4.5 triplets are just good, sharp lenses without the bubbles. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Marek wrote: |
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Not sure these old Trioplans represent good value. You can buy Trioplans in shutter attached to old folders for a tiny fraction of the cost. Then there are the other triplets like the Radionar, Triotar and Voigtar. I have loads of them from 75 to 150mm. |
Dont you accidentally have Tele-Xenar 240/5.5 Exa Silver or 360/5.5 the very same, or Tele Megor 25cm (silver, Werner von Braun rockets kind of looking)? |
No, I don't use long lenses on my 6x9 camera so never bothered to collect any. The longest I use is a Symmar 150, a Tessar 165 and a Mamiya 180.
Tele-Xenars I have three 135s in DKL, Altix and M42.
I've never bothered with the old long Meyers, I just don't shoot long lenses that often and if I need to, I have a Sonnar 5.6/250 T* and a Tair-3 4.5/300 that suffice.
I do admire the aesthetics of the old Meyers in silver finish, I have the Primagon 4.5/35, Primotar 3.5/50 and 4/135 and Trioplan 2.9/50 and think they are excellent, good performers with strong character. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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