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iangreenhalgh1
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 Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:36 pm Post subject: Sun 3.5/60-135 on Sony a850 |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
One of the first Japanese zooms. Big, heavy, very well made, pleasant to use. IQ is not bad, it vignettes at all apertures, is a little soft wide open with some quite bad CA, but stopped down a stop or two it's quite sharp. It has pleasant bokeh and a vintage character. Not a bad lens all in all but I will probably only use it for video as I have better zooms and mostly use primes.
#1 f3.5, a little soft but nice bokeh.
#2 f8, still some vignetting but pretty sharp and the CA has gone.
#3 f3.5 to test bokeh - nice and smooth but with medium contrast overall.
#4 f3.5, vignetting is obvious, sharpness is not bad though.
#5 f3.5 aginst the sun. Low contrast due to veiling flare, interesting vintage look.
#6 f3.5 So-so sharpness, bad CA on the black stick figure.
#7 f3.5, I like the bokeh
#8 f5.6, still a little bit soft
#9 f8, nicely sharp
#10 f11
#11 f5.6. still not very sharp
100% crop - sharpness is similar to a modern cheap Canon or Sigma zoom
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
I like #2 really, not bad at all from an old noname zoom, camera is matter 
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
When I used the lens I thought it was pretty good, the image in the viewfinder was really nice and it was really easy to focus, even wide open, so I was surprised when I looked at the RAW files on my PC that the results weren't sharper. It's certainly much better than a lot of the cheap zooms of the 70s and 80s.
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Lloydy
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Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Lloydy wrote:
The only lens I've got that is bigger and heavier than my Tair 300 is an old Sun 80-240 / 4 zoom that I paid £2 for so I could rob the tripod mount for my Pentacon 200.
I have to say my judgement was spot on, sacrificing the tripod mount was it's only useful purpose in life, as a lens it was crap. If I'd have paid £2 to use it as a lens I would have been robbed! 
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Has anyone ever had a Sun lens that was better than mediocre?
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visualopsins
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visualopsins wrote:
| iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
| When I used the lens I thought it was pretty good, the image in the viewfinder was really nice and it was really easy to focus, even wide open, so I was surprised when I looked at the RAW files on my PC that the results weren't sharper. It's certainly much better than a lot of the cheap zooms of the 70s and 80s. |
+1 also my experience with the lens. Odd, enit?
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| Has anyone ever had a Sun lens that was better than mediocre? |
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Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Every Sun made lens I've tried was mediocre at best and I have yet to see a review by anyone else of a Sun lens where they thought it was better than mediocre.
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buerokratiehasser
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buerokratiehasser wrote:
The 3.5/200 (Chinon) perhaps?
Or the 4.5/300? Well I suppose that would count as mediocre, giving a sharpness on par with old sensors' ISO 400. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I had a Chinon 3.5/200, don't know who made it but it was a poor lens.
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
Luis thread on the Sun 60-135.
http://forum.mflenses.com/sun-60-135-3-5-zoom-1970s-bling-t10930,highlight,sun+60135.html
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bmwtraveler
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Location: Bakersfield,Ca
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bmwtraveler wrote:
Sun Optic 24-40mm 3.5 was a great len muilt coasted,used it a lot,they made lens for other companies,magazines at the time rated rea high |
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WNG555
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WNG555 wrote:
An endorsement for the Sun 24-40mm f/3.5 MC Wide Zoom from me as well. A two-touch zoom, that was surprisingly very good. Sharp and good color.
The other Sun lenses I have were made for others. Soligor 300mm f/4.5 and an Aston DX 28mm f/2.8 (also sold as a Soligor C/D).
Both are very good.
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