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mioandhiscats
Joined: 25 Jun 2015 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:32 pm Post subject: Looking for a 800mm lens which is sharp, any advice??? |
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mioandhiscats wrote:
I do not have a big budge. I have 2 plans, one is Kenko 800mm f8 mirror lens, another is a nikon 300mm f4.5 with a 3X multiplier.
I have never used Kenko 800mm f8 before, do not know if it is sharp enough, can anyone post some pics taken by it?
Or anyone has better advice?(as cheap as possible)
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vlousada
Joined: 11 Dec 2010 Posts: 345 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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vlousada wrote:
Hi,
I do not have any experience with the mentioned lenses, however if I want to be cheap I would consider a third Option: a 400mm with a 2x tele-converter!
note1: Hardly on a budget you will get a faster aperture than f/8 with that combo, but a GOOD and fast mirror 800mm is not cheap either.
note2 (EDIT): maybe the MTO 1000mm f/11 would worth for consideration _________________ Regards,
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7581 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
If you go for the non-reflex opinion, a 400mm F5.6 and a 2x teleconverter will be better. _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Get closer to subject , best option above 400mm quality is dramatically fall off _________________ -------------------------------
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asfethan
Joined: 08 Apr 2014 Posts: 74 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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asfethan wrote:
3x multiplier is too much in my opinion because multiplier slows down the lens. You'll have f13.5/900mm but with sharpness of f4.5 at largest aperture and some IQ loss. If you'll want to stop it down eg. to f8 you'll get amount of light passing to sensor which equals to f24 with some IQ loss. I can't imagine situation where you can use this setup except one - moon shots. _________________ best regards, Jaroslav
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1318 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Sounds like your looking for high magnification.
These days there is another option: a good lens used with a camera with a small sensor. For example check out these pics taken with the pentax Q:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/55946-300mm-plus-lens-club-discuss-your-long-lenses-1149.html#post3294723
In my opinion you are likely to be unimpressed with the results from options involving large slow mirrors, or TC's
I have got quite decent results from my M4/3 lumix G1 with a tamron nestar 400mm f6.9 acquired for less than $50 - 2x crop factor = 800mm. _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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mioandhiscats
Joined: 25 Jun 2015 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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mioandhiscats wrote:
Thanks guys!
I have D610 and NEX.
Actually I prefer to a mirror lens which is sharp enough. I know most mirror lenses are not sharp at all, but if anyone can offer some pic, it will be better for me. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
MTO 1000mm f11 is a sharp lens, need very sturdy tripod _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7581 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Attila wrote: |
MTO 1000mm f11 is a sharp lens, need very sturdy tripod |
Is this https://flic.kr/p/7SjmMB sturdy enough? _________________ The best lens is the one you have with you.
https://lensfever.com/
https://www.instagram.com/_lens_fever/ |
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mioandhiscats
Joined: 25 Jun 2015 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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mioandhiscats wrote:
Attila wrote: |
MTO 1000mm f11 is a sharp lens, need very sturdy tripod |
why I only found MTO 1000mm f10 on ebay???? |
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mioandhiscats
Joined: 25 Jun 2015 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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mioandhiscats wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
MTO 1000mm f11 is a sharp lens, need very sturdy tripod |
Is this https://flic.kr/p/7SjmMB sturdy enough? |
wow, yes! |
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vlousada
Joined: 11 Dec 2010 Posts: 345 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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vlousada wrote:
mioandhiscats wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
MTO 1000mm f11 is a sharp lens, need very sturdy tripod |
why I only found MTO 1000mm f10 on ebay???? |
F/10 Indeed... My mistake, sorry _________________ Regards,
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I mix easily names , apertures only one type MTO 1000mm is exists _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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asfethan
Joined: 08 Apr 2014 Posts: 74 Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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asfethan wrote:
calvin83 wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
MTO 1000mm f11 is a sharp lens, need very sturdy tripod |
Is this https://flic.kr/p/7SjmMB sturdy enough? |
I can't stop laughing _________________ best regards, Jaroslav
flickr
camera
Pentax K10D
lenses
Hoya HMC wide-auto f2.8/28mm (PK)
Auto Chinon Multi-Coated f1.4/50mm (PK)
SMC Pentax-A f1.7/50mm (PK)
Porst Tele MC auto D f2.8/135mm (M42)
Hoya HMC tele-auto f3.5/200mm (PK)
Hoya HMC zoom f4/80-200mm (PK)
software
RawTherapee
Gimp
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CuriousOne
Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Posts: 669 Location: Home
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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CuriousOne wrote:
I have that MTO-11. Image quality is not bad, I'd say it resolves 6-8 megapixels. But focusing ring is stiff, requires re-lubing, which I'm lazy to do. If anyone interested in getting this lens for a low price, PM me. _________________ I have nothing to compensate with lens |
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