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SandroB
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 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:47 pm Post subject: Novoflex history question |
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SandroB wrote:
In a 1956 Novoflex pricelist several lenses of companies like Steinheil and Schneider are listed. For the use on a Novoflex bellows Schneider-Kreuznach had a series of Xenar lenses available, like the 105mm, 135mm, 150mm and 180mm. Those were available in 1956 in Leica thread mount, with the exception of the 105mm. Novoflex had a Noflexar 3.5/105mm for LTM in the list. Would anyone know which company designed and produced this Noflexar lens?
Thanks, Lex
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calvin83
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| Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:31 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Schacht made the Noflexar 3.5/105mm for use in bellows . They have either a "R"(in black lens) or a diamond mark (in chrome lens) on the front name ring. However, we will need a photo of the LTM version to confirm the maker.
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SandroB
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| Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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SandroB wrote:
Novoflex confirmed to me that it was indeed Schacht that made the Noflexar 105mm for Novoflex. I don't own this lens, but I have some Schneider Xenar lenses from that period and it made me curious. Thanks!
Lex
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Steinheil Culminar 2.8/90
Schneider-Kreuznach Xenar 4.5/135
Bodies: Leica M3, M4, M4-2, M4-P, M6TTL, MDa, MD-2 |
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woodrim
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woodrim wrote:
I'm hoping some of you can provide more information on Novoflex and Noflexar lenses and the history of the company. I can't find much history on the internet except for something very brief by Camerapedia, but I question some of their information. They stated that Novoflex made cameras and lenses for Leica; I think maybe the other way around - Leica glass in some Noflexar lenses. There was this quote from a forum: "The quality of the 400mm is, I think, quite good, if it is the f:5.6 version (achromatic Lens from Leitz)."
I have seen many comments about the 400mm being a good, sharp lens, so am hoping it is true. I have just purchased one.
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dickb
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dickb wrote:
| woodrim wrote: |
I'm hoping some of you can provide more information on Novoflex and Noflexar lenses and the history of the company. I can't find much history on the internet except for something very brief by Camerapedia, but I question some of their information. They stated that Novoflex made cameras and lenses for Leica; I think maybe the other way around - Leica glass in some Noflexar lenses. There was this quote from a forum: "The quality of the 400mm is, I think, quite good, if it is the f:5.6 version (achromatic Lens from Leitz)."
I have seen many comments about the 400mm being a good, sharp lens, so am hoping it is true. I have just purchased one. |
I think two things may be mixed up here: I have never heard of Leica glass being used in Noflexar lenses, but there are Leitz lens heads made for the Novoflex system, a 400mm f/6.8 and 560mm f/6.8 certainly. They are clearly labelled as being Leitz Telyt lenses. The only lens I know of made by Leitz and badged as something else is a Minolta 90mm f/4 for the M system, and only the first version of that lens. I don't claim that my knowledge on the subject is anywhere near perfect though, please show me wrong. Maybe an early version of the 12.5 and 25 mm Micro Rokkors was a rebadged Leitz Photar.
Anyway, which 400mm did you buy? There is a two element Noflexar 400mm f/5.6 and a three element Noflexar T 400mm f/5.6. The three element one is supposed to be an improvement over the two element one. |
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woodrim
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:38 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
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Anyway, which 400mm did you buy? There is a two element Noflexar 400mm f/5.6 and a three element Noflexar T 400mm f/5.6. The three element one is supposed to be an improvement over the two element one. |
I will have the T-Noflexar. I found this through Google - seems very good information. Speaks of the lens heads being made by Leica.
https://books.google.com/books?id=mRqWLP8y8OoC&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=noflexar+400mm+versions&source=bl&ots=x8Nf1495xf&sig=B6Cco7-NdI2znWBXjrKTJc1VVMY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MszCVPegOMGuggTEtoJQ&ved=0CFkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=noflexar%20400mm%20versions&f=false
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dickb
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dickb wrote:
Interesting to read. But as I interpret it it says the same as I did - Leitz badged heads were made by Leitz, Novoflex badged heads were made by another party, in this case Agfa. |
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