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Teo
Joined: 19 Jul 2014 Posts: 1079 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 10:12 pm Post subject: Best and worse lenses for Exakta mount ? |
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Teo wrote:
I just have a Schneider Kreutznach 135 , Flektogon 35/2.8, but didn'n tested on digital , partially by lack of an adapter
Should I look for something special or avoid something in this mount ? Any hidden gems ? _________________ Cheers ,Teo
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:24 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Most of the gems are not hidden, they are well known. Too well known, as they can be very expensive.
Biotar 75/1.5, Flektogon 20/4, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8, etc. A lot of cult lenses were made in Exakta mount or even mostly in Exakta mount. A lot of very ordinary lenses too. In fact just a lot of lenses of all kinds as Exakta was the primary professional SLR system of the 1950s and was very important until the late 1960s. So pretty much every lens of those years had versions in Exakta mount. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:40 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
There are some very decent lenses that are cheap because they are very common, and are nothing special compared with modern lenses.
If you want to use them with your Exakta, though, these are very useful.
1. Tessar 50/2.8 - get the auto one with the arm as the preset Alu ones are overpriced due to collectors. A cheap lens but sharp, there is very little you can't do with it. This was the most common "kit lens" for Exakta in many markets.
2. Meyer Lydith 30/3.5 - this was the standard wide angle beyond the 35mm but before the expensive 25 and 20mm Flektogon and it is still cheap. I think this is found only as a preset.
Good lens for its day.
3. Pancolar 50/2 - Oddly, not as sharp as the Tessar I think. A more typical normal lens, if you want a faster one. Was also a kit lens so there are lots of them.
4. Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9 - yeah, this was the real cheapo lens of the earlier Exakta. Not as bad as its reputation and there is the possibility of some interesting triplet bokeh.
5. Biometar 80/2.8 - a great portrait lens. I had a fine example that I much regret selling. Not that cheap usually, but the cheapest such lens in Exakta mount.
6. Piesker 180/5.5 - sharper than the Meyer telemegor and just as small. And because little known its usually cheaper. Bokeh may not be as smooth, hard to say, but I was not disappointed.
7. Meyer Telemegor 180/5.5 - see above. Light, small, not bad, nice bokeh, very practical longer lens for daylight.
8. Meyer Telemegor 250/5.5 -not very good but usually cheap and most important it looks really cool.
Most other options are usually harder to find or are more expensive. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
The Pancolar 2/50 is I think my favorite normal lens in the Exakta mount.
Many people think the Steinheil Quinon to be the best normal made for the exakta, but the prices are crazy. The Schneider Xenon 1.9/50 is likely just as good in objective measurements... but more common and cheaper.
Worst lenses - some of the early silver barrel ISCO lenses are mediocre performers. The domiplan is super common in exakta mount too and quality can be variable. A good domiplan is good (for a triplet) a bad one can be pretty bad. Many of the early wide angles are also not much good, but they were of course the first wide angles for SLRs developed so it is not unexpected. Enna's lithagon series is interesting, the first one developed was the 4.5/35 which is soft, slow, and flare prone - the 3.5/35 which came after it is sharper and faster, and the 2.8/35 which came last is really sharp. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7555 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:06 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I know which are the most expensive ones and Luis have mentioned the cheapest and most common ones. Most lenses from the well known brands(CZJ, Schneider and Steinheil etc.) are at least decent to very good. If you want more fun, look for early Meyer Primoplan/Trioplan or chrome Enna lenses. If you like uncoated lens, you can choose from CZJ, Meyer or Schneider.
+1 for Pancolar 2/50. Not the sharpest wide open but very good when stopped down with pretty decent corner performance. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
There are Topcors too in exakta mount, and those usually are very good.
I have only the RE.auto Topcor 3.5/135 and it's one of the best 135's I own. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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Teo
Joined: 19 Jul 2014 Posts: 1079 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:56 am Post subject: |
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Teo wrote:
Thank you all
Wouldn't be interesting to post here some pics, maybe? Great info , anyway ,and pictures could only help .Thank you in advance _________________ Cheers ,Teo
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
A few from some of my lenses
Pancolar 2/50:
paint by berangberang, on Flickr
fireworks by berangberang, on Flickr
car wash by berangberang, on Flickr
moss by berangberang, on Flickr
vx5006 by berangberang, on Flickr
vx5008 by berangberang, on Flickr
fence by berangberang, on Flickr
Tessar 4.5/40:
table and chairs by berangberang, on Flickr
bottles by berangberang, on Flickr
Meritar 2.9/50:
mailbox by berangberang, on Flickr
truck by berangberang, on Flickr
Xenon 1.9/50:
tree by berangberang, on Flickr
ISCO Westar 2.8/50:
Untitled by berangberang, on Flickr
I could dig around for more, but I'm sure if you're interested enough to look for results, you can just search the lens' name on flickr and find pics from lots of people. |
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2187 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
CZJ Biotar 2/58 Exakta - love this lens, it's visibly better than the other copies I had in m42: I don't know if that applies to all exa's vs m42's or it's just a coincidence:
Camogli by A_Anything, on Flickr
Camogli by A_Anything, on Flickr
RE.Auto Topcor 3.5/135
2013-08-22_perugia_27 by A_Anything, on Flickr
Soprarivo, Po by A_Anything, on Flickr
CZJ Sonnar 4/135 - that is a somewhat hidden gem: it tends to be overlooked in favour of the m42 f3.5 version, and it can be found extremely cheap.
Then I'm a sucker for sonnars, so a little biased.
ChemiTrail by A_Anything, on Flickr
Palazzo Reale by A_Anything, on Flickr _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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fuzzywuzzy
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 1258 Location: Down East, Canada, eh?
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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fuzzywuzzy wrote:
I'd just add the Meyer Optik Gorlitz 135/2.8 "bokeh monster" to the list.
I love the Flek 35/2.8, it's a great "normal" lens on APS-C and focuses very close so I find it great for walks in the woods, can be used for either landscape or almost-macro shots. _________________ I welcome C&C, editing my pics and reposting them on the forum is fine.
NEX-F3
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CZJ Sonnar 135/4, Biotar 58/2, Pancolar 50/2, Tessar 50/2.8, Flek 35/2.8, Flek 25/4
Super Takumar 135/2.5, 135/3.5, 100/4 bellows, 50/1.4, 28/3.5
Helios 58/2, 3M-5A 500/8, Mir 20M
Vivitar Series 1 70-210 - - - - - - - - Nikkor 200/4
Rikenon 28/2.8 - - - - - - - - Zeiss 50/1.7 Planar
PB 50/2.4, 135/2.8
Yashica 50/1.9, 28/2.8, 135/2.8
Hexanon 28/3.5, 50/1.4 |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16628 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Helioplan f4.5 40mm - an overlooked and nearly forgotten about gem!!
Superb colors and sharpness and quite pleasant bokeh.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/sets/72157632956071016/
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"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3072 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
I like the Pentacon 2.8/100 and it wasn't too expensive.
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frenched
Joined: 16 Feb 2013 Posts: 395 Location: MD USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:37 am Post subject: |
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frenched wrote:
My two cents:
Topcor RE 135/3.5 renders amazing color, brightness and sharpness. A very "true" and "accurate" lens so bokeh will not be strong. When you nail focus the sharpness can make your eyes bleed.
Meyer Lydith 30/3.5 gives a gentle "legacy" feel and is reasonably sharp, good saturation, contrast and lovely bokeh.
Meyer/Pentacon 135/2.8 (15 blade version) is the bokeh king. It's a special lens. You have to try it to understand.
CZJ Biotar 58/2 has wonderful bokeh and color but I found it hard to hit sharp focus. I had the M42 version so it may vary. |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7555 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:24 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Xenon 1.9/50(zebra focus ring)
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2964 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:28 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Mos6502 wrote: |
A few from some of my lenses
Pancolar 2/50:
paint by berangberang, on Flickr
fireworks by berangberang, on Flickr
car wash by berangberang, on Flickr
moss by berangberang, on Flickr
vx5006 by berangberang, on Flickr
vx5008 by berangberang, on Flickr
fence by berangberang, on Flickr
Tessar 4.5/40:
table and chairs by berangberang, on Flickr
bottles by berangberang, on Flickr
Meritar 2.9/50:
mailbox by berangberang, on Flickr
truck by berangberang, on Flickr
Xenon 1.9/50:
tree by berangberang, on Flickr
ISCO Westar 2.8/50:
Untitled by berangberang, on Flickr
I could dig around for more, but I'm sure if you're interested enough to look for results, you can just search the lens' name on flickr and find pics from lots of people. |
Luis was not big on the Pancolar but I personally love it. I get much better results than with the Tessar 2.8 on my Canon EOS 60D.
Also really like the Topcon 135 mentioned above. I don't really like the results I have achieved with my enna lithagon. I like biotar 58 2 as well. Isco lenses though the "cut rate" schneiders have given me some decent photos as well. Stay away from the later plasticky ones as the quality of workmanship is down significantly. _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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jamaeolus
Joined: 19 Mar 2014 Posts: 2964 Location: Eugene
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:35 am Post subject: |
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jamaeolus wrote:
Also sonnar is a good lens if you pay attention you can get decent copies at not too high a price. ( I got a 135 f4 in zebra in nearly unused condition with the cool oval case for 80 usd) _________________ photos are moments frozen in time |
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