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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: Tamron 400/6.9 preset t-mount - an early collectible |
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luisalegria wrote:
This is an old Tamron (model FO-69) from about 1963. It seems to be one of the more common of the Tamron long lenses, and of course it is one of the first t-mount lenses.
Tamron started establishing their brand early - while they sold through the distributors under their brands - notably Soligor - they also made a point of selling their product under their own name as well, and they weren't shy of it - they made sure to print it in very large letters on their early products !
This is a typical Tamron product of the early period, very simple, sturdy, well made and finished. It is a very light and handy lens for a 400mm, helped by the rather small aperture. Its a fraction of the weight of, for instance, the Meyer Telemegor 400/5.5. It is no hardship to carry this around.
I think this was intended as a consumer lens, if so it is one of the first of the low-cost "wundertute". Tamron also made a line of even smaller and lighter 400mm's, and even a collapsible model (Nestar), on the same principles and probably for the same market.
This one came in rather worn condition, with a badly dented filter ring, but that is easy to remedy. The glass has the coating worn off in spots, doubtless reducing performance a bit. Even so, it is a very capable lens that is sharp wide open (even if that is only f/6.9), and as far as I can tell, excellent contrast. Its worst problem is a rather long minimum focus of 30ft/9m.
The bird - I never managed to get perfect focus on this, after many tries, maybe because of the small aperture ?
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_________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Richard_D
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2378 Location: Faversham Kent UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
Extremely capable! _________________ Richard
The interesting bit:
Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.
DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.
More to come... |
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Wormhandler
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 106 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Wormhandler wrote:
WOW is all I have to say to those examples.
Either you have some magic ability to let crappy lenses really shine or you have an ability to know what gems to pluck from the rest.
I have some Tamron adatall lenses in my small collection and was tempted to buy this:
Trade name Model Price Yen Sale time
400mm F/7.5 #490 --- 1961
It is similar to the lens you have just shown.
But I made a few other purchases and I passed. Do you know anything about this model and if it would have been a good buy at 18 euro.
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
I think the lesson I've been learning so far is that there are a lot of old lenses capable of reaching the limit of my 6 megapixel sensor resolution if focused properly.
I don't think this lens is exceptional for a cheap t-mount 400mm. There are many of these from the 1960's-1970's, like the Spiratone brand (I had one) and many other odd makes that are probably just the same.
I like these old Tamrons because they have a certain charm and nice workmanship, besides good performance. The exceptional one so far was the 350mm f/5.6 which I was very pleased with.
I am looking for the f/7.5 and others in this line for my collection. I think 18 Euro is a reasonable price for that Tamron in Europe. I would be willing to pay maybe $15 for it here, but prices tend to be lower on this side.
The problem with these small aperture lenses is that I find that they are harder to focus accurately. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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jarodfwh
Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:47 am Post subject: Re: Tamron 400/6.9 preset t-mount - an early collectible |
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jarodfwh wrote:
hi i had recently acquire a similar Tamron 400 6.9 lens in a garage sale, but its very hard to get any info on this lens. |
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jarodfwh
Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:24 am Post subject: Re: Tamron 400/6.9 preset t-mount - an early collectible |
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jarodfwh wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
This is an old Tamron (model FO-69) from about 1963. It seems to be one of the more common of the Tamron long lenses, and of course it is one of the first t-mount lenses.
This is a typical Tamron product of the early period, very simple, sturdy, well made and finished. It is a very light and handy lens for a 400mm, helped by the rather small aperture. Its a fraction of the weight of, for instance, the Meyer Telemegor 400/5.5. It is no hardship to carry this around. |
i had some problem with this lens, this lens has a quite peculiar mount, it had a 3-edge mount , but i had try it on nikon f mount, minolta mount and pentax k mount, but it was smaller than all the said mount , comparison between a k mount adapter to m42 to the mount ring on this tamron 400
secondly the rear lens will fall off and there are nothing to hold it in place as shown below
thirdly, the screw ring was around 55mm which only fit the stand that come with the lens
i am wondering if there is a piece of the lens that is missing. was hoping if you may shed any light on this confusion? thanks mate
cheers
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:41 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Thanks admins ! I guess you gave the gent rights to post pictures.
Yes, there is a piece or pieces missing on this one, and one piece that doesn't belong. It appears that you have someones leftover conversion project.
It looks like someone adapted it for some purpose that we can only guess at now.
The mount itself is Exakta, but on its own this wont go into any Exakta camera. Its also not a bit that was supplied by Tamron, this thing is probably taken fron some other lens.
I suspect the rear tube, that holds the T-mount screw, was removed and someone put in an Exakta mount ring, as you have there.
As it is, if some way can be found to fasten everything together, it is very likely go nicely into an Exakta bellows, which may have been the point, to make a very close focusing rig. The Exakta Vielzweck heavy duty bellows unit should be able to handle suck a weight.
The rear optical module is normally held on by setscrews I think, I cant say as I haven't disassembled mine to this extent. These are apparently missing. Or there may be some other fastening bit missing. Can't say. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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jarodfwh
Joined: 31 Dec 2013 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:21 am Post subject: |
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jarodfwh wrote:
[quote="luisalegria"]
Yes, there is a piece or pieces missing on this one, and one piece that doesn't belong. It appears that you have someones leftover conversion project.
It looks like someone adapted it for some purpose that we can only guess at now.
The mount itself is Exakta, but on its own this wont go into any Exakta camera. Its also not a bit that was supplied by Tamron, this thing is probably taken fron some other lens.
I suspect the rear tube, that holds the T-mount screw, was removed and someone put in an Exakta mount ring, as you have there.
As it is, if some way can be found to fasten everything together, it is very likely go nicely into an Exakta bellows, which may have been the point, to make a very close focusing rig. The Exakta Vielzweck heavy duty bellows unit should be able to handle suck a weight.
The rear optical module is normally held on by setscrews I think, I cant say as I haven't disassembled mine to this extent. These are apparently missing. Or there may be some other fastening bit missing. Can't say. [/quote]
If I tighten the stand screw it actually hold the rear optical module in place.
But as you had mention the rear tube is missing, is it possible to get exakta extension tube(work as the rear tube) to screw on then connect to exakta to nex adapter? |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:29 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
That may be possible. I was looking at the Exakta extension rings I have and they look like they would work for that purpose.
You will have to find a combination of rings that get you to infinity focus. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
I have the same lens (or a similar one - mine is 400 f7.5) but look exactly the same.
Nice one and not very heavy. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Hi Luis,Pleased to see others collecting early Tamrons,beautifully made and excellent results obtained from them I have the Rokunar 350mm f5.6 which was made by Tamron i believe and recently obtained the 200-500 f5.6.Happy New year to you. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1318 Location: Conwy N Wales
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marcusBMG wrote:
I found this comparison of vintage 400mm lenses including the tamron 400 6.9. Although I don't read chinese he sample pics and conclusions are clear enough. This lens does well!
http://blog.dcview.com/article.php?a=AD1XMwZlBDsCYw%3D%3D _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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