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Jesito
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 Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:19 pm Post subject: With or without filter? |
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Jesito wrote:
Obviously I don't speak about tobacco 
I usually put a filter on all my lenses, but I take it out when shooting. It's kind of dust and humidity protection.
Even if the filter is good, it's an additional piece of glass between the picture subject and the sensor/film.
That was my thought. A few days ago I got a clear confirmation:
When taking this picture, I forgot to remove the filter before shooting. Then I noticed some interferences on it, at the right side area of the lamp:
To confirm this I took out the filter and shot the picture again, this time the image was clear of interferences:
So my conlcusion is: without filter always.
What do you think?
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kds315*
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Why not just use a lens cap to protect? I never use filters (except for my special photography...)
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Jesito
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| kds315* wrote: |
| Why not just use a lens cap to protect? I never use filters (except for my special photography...) |
Lens caps are not so hermetic (except the screwed ones, same as a filter).
You're right, there is an exception, circular polarizers, that I do use.
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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RSalles
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Jes,
The filter flared, With a thin one with better coatings my guess is you don't have to worry about it.
If a filter would be a bad idea per se, why did Zeiss, Leica, Schneider or Rodenstock made it after all?
Cheers,
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Jvg
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Jvg wrote:
| RSalles wrote: |
Jes,
The filter flared, With a thin one with better coatings my guess is you don't have to worry about it.
If a filter would be a bad idea per se, why did Zeiss, Leica, Schneider or Rodenstock made it after all?
Cheers,
Renato |
+1000
Coating would make a lot of difference when comes to handling flares. But most of filters are useless, especially non-multi-coated (UV/Warming/Cooling/Skylight etc). Filters make sense when occasion calls for it: ND/IR/CPL or Red, Green, Orange, Yellow, Blue on B&W film. |
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Filters are essential tools, just like lenses, matter what you use. Quality filters are not cause any problems just like quality lenses. I use extensively b+w nd filters I did never experience any quality loss, many filters are only transparent caps to me also, I always put them off before shooting.
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Jesito
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| Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
I agree, good filters should put negligible effects on the final result.
But good filters are expensive.
In many cases, with my batch of old cheap lenses, probably the filter would cost me more than the lens
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Jesito's backsack:
Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
CSCCanon EOS-M, Samsung NX100 and NX210, Lumix G5, NEX-F3 |
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Jvg
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Jvg wrote:
| Jesito wrote: |
In many cases, with my batch of old cheap lenses, probably the filter would cost me more than the lens |
Not really 
I've actually gotten some higher end used filters in perfect condition for $2 to $5 a piece (Zeiss, Nikon, B+W, Hoya HMC). |
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RSalles
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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RSalles wrote:
Me too, got a pair of Rodenstock filters for LF lens tagged at 10-15 USD each.
I prefer to clean a thousand times a filter then a lens front element,
Renato |
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