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Attila
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 Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:13 am Post subject: Oldest Jupiter-9 85mm? |
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Attila wrote:
My earliest copy was until now, 1955 lens, I bought an 1951 lens yesterday, rangefinder lens converted to M42 decades ago due no visible difference between mount and lens other parts. What is your earliest Jupiter 9 ?
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danfromm wrote:
The 1963 GOI catalog lists the Jupiter 9 as an August, 1948 design. So that's the earliest possible. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| The 1963 GOI catalog lists the Jupiter 9 as an August, 1948 design. So that's the earliest possible. |
Untill 1951 was only ZK's. Catalog only refer to the date when formul was calculed (or "re-calculed"  )
1951 is the first year of production for Jupiter-9 under this name. Original mount was Kiev or LTM mount?
Congratz for this lens, I guess it will be a good performer!
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Mir wrote:
M39 KMZ 1959
Older than me....... but still looks young !
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BurstMox
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:51 am Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
My oldest (and only one) is sadly from 1964  (Kiev mount)
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:41 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Congrats!
I have two 1951 Jupiter 9 LTM. They have slightly different coating.
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Tedat wrote:
my copy (LTM) is from 1953
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trev wrote:
Mine is an M39 mount, serial number N6907109 - how old is that?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| Mine is an M39 mount, serial number N6907109 - how old is that? |
1969
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trev wrote:
Thanks
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vanylapep wrote:
Hey, I've seen another version different then the one from Mir, which one is older? |
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Nikonshooter wrote:
I have one from 1954.
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Attila wrote:
Many thanks for all replies! Damn! two ?
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woodrim wrote:
'61 and '66.
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| Hey, I've seen another version different then the one from Mir, which one is older? |
I think RF version are older than SLR one's (like the Mir's one). They first made them for Zorki/Kiev. The first zenit (Zenit-C) was created in 1955 (was just a Zorki with reflex cage). So no SLR Jupiter-9 were made before 1955.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
RF of course.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
This is the RF one?
It's same optical? |
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Attila wrote:
yes. slim tall is RF,.short fat is SLR , they are not identical. I like RF lenses much more
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kansalliskala wrote:
My question: what is newst one?
Is it still in pproduction, I have a 1992 lens.
Is it the longest produced lens made ever?
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aoleg wrote:
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My question: what is newst one?
Is it still in pproduction, I have a 1992 lens.
Is it the longest produced lens made ever? |
The lens is not in production. I talked with the factory representative in person 2 years ago at Photokina, and he said there is no demand for new Jupiter's, probably because of the second-hand market. He also said that if they receive an order (minimum quantities can be discussed), the factory can still produce them.
That said, I bought my MC Jupiter-9 brand new. It's made in year 2000. Probably production stopped around that time, maybe in 2000-2003. There are so many used copies floating around that I don't see the factory resuming production any time soon...
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
Looks like KMZ still produce it :
http://www.zenit-camera.com/jupiter_9_lens.htm
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aoleg wrote:
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| Looks like KMZ still produce it : |
They don't. Jupiter-9 was (mostly) manufactured by LZOS.
http://lzos.ru/en/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2
It is no longer in production, although the technological line still exists, and (according to the factory representative I spoke with) production can be resumed if a big enough order is received.
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BurstMox wrote:
I was myself suprised to see it on KMZ site (lens even wear LZOS logo on the photo). But yes, I just noticed that when you click on "order now", it leads to nothing 
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:12 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
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| That said, I bought my MC Jupiter-9 brand new. It's made in year 2000. Probably production stopped around that time, maybe in 2000-2003. |
so it has been produced about 50 years
any other lens lasted so long?
Hasselblad Planar / Sonnar maybe?
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aoleg wrote:
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so it has been produced about 50 years
any other lens lasted so long?
Hasselblad Planar / Sonnar maybe? |
Oh, come on! In Russia, the 1966 Fiat 124 is produced as "LADA Classic" up to these days:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%96%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8_(%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%8C)
Does it make the Fiat an all-times classic car? Sure it'll become retro in another 50 years or so, but in today's Russia it's just a go-around car for the low-middle class... a sub-standard go-around car by today's standards if you ask me.
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